Re: Shall We All Leave At Once?

On 16 May, 13:57, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Phil Bowles" <philipbowles2...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On 16 May, 11:57, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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It's a bit ***, this Usenet Group. Time has passed. The Doctor is the
winner of some prize that matters to him alone. Aggy is always right,
in a fly's eye. TopPoster is... well, whatever.

TOSH!

JAPBIRD!

Yads has always been here and I've been here for over a decade so the
problems with this group are nothing to do with us. TopPoster is an
obsessive compulsive spamming troll.

Hey, Aggy's got a point (about TopPoster anyway)...

At least Yads tries to comment on the
actual series. The facts are that 95% of the time I am right and its
those
opposing me who are wrong.

...and then he ruins it. Still, it's funny.

The should stop posting on subjects then know
nothing about such as ancient history, religion and production matters
otherwise I will continue to make fools of them.

See what I mean? Oh, I do so love irony.

Now lets get down to the real problem. People who try to defend RTD no
matter what, and what's worse its exactly the same people who want to
lick
RTDs arse

But at least they try to comment on the actual series...

No. All they do is slag of other posters who disagree with them or think the
new series is not as good as the original or that RTD is crap.

No, no, can't say I've read anything from anyone like that. Care to
give any examples? There are people who defend Davies against
irrelevant personal criticism about his sexuality and the like, but I
don't think I've read anything by anyone who hasn't at some point
criticised something he's done - and I think it's universally agreed
he's not a terribly good writer. I've certainly seen people take issue
with the idea that the old series was some sort of golden age that the
new one has yet to surpass (in my case, more because the old series
was mostly a lot worse than it's fondly remembered to be than because
the new one's especially good), but I haven't seen any of those people
slagging off others for thinking otherwise, and they've all
contributed productively to on-topic discussions.

Aggy, I think we'll have to add punctuation to the list of concepts
you struggle with (you know, along with English, Greek, linguistics,
religion, history ancient or recent, television production,
philosophy, logic, drama, physics, biology...) I have to say I've been

That just proves your ignorance. I know what I am talking about but you just
slag off anything you don't understand

What a bizarre world you live in, where STUPID IGNORANT, FOOL and so
forth don't represent "slagging off" but patient criticism of bad
arguments does.

and people who talk about subjects
you have no comprehension of.

You are funny, I'll give you that. I shouldn't give you this advice,
as it will only spoil my fun in the unlikely event you heed it, but
it's a good idea, when you find that absolutely everyone else is
pointing out that you're mistaken about something, to go back and
check that you have actually understood it correctly yourself rather
than assuming everyone else is wrong. I will admit, your commentaries
can be a fascinating educational experience as they prompt me to check
the material you're referring to to check the veracity of your claims.
But alarm bells should start to ring given just how many times I've
checked and pointed out that you've completely misunderstood the
source material, or are using it to claim someone said something other
than what they actually did. Most of this material is pretty widely
accessible, and you get caught out remarkably easily. And trying to
cover your mistakes by waving around a claim of expertise is just
sophistry.

thinking they themselves are better than
anyone else and qualified to challenge the experts on any subject simply

I will give you this, though - you have an *excellent* grasp of irony.

Either that, or you're throwing a tantrum because people are always
pointing out where your reasoning or grasp of facts are flawed - best

No. These people are just showing their ignorance of the facts. Just like
they attack the Doctor Who authors and members of the Restoration Team and
prominent fans and website creators they attack anyone with competence who
brings up any subject or fact they are ignorant of.

So, just sour grapes then. The only criticism I've heard levelled has
been against a website owner who supposedly claims to have sourced
missing episodes and then fails to deliver - no idea how accurate that
is, and I don't have any interest in the subject. As for you "bringing
up any subject or fact they are ignorant of" (since you're the only
person you credit as being "anyone of competence").

advice is for you to heed your own about not posting on subjects you
know nothing about. I'll give you credit - you know a lot about
classic Who (if it makes you feel better to describe yourself as
"qualified to talk about that subject" or an "expert" rather than a
nerd).

because they worship RTD and the new series.

You're the one who keeps giving it 7-10 out of 10...

No I don't.

Okay, 7-9 out of 10 then - wasn't there one episode you said you'd
given 9 rather than 10 because the Doctor wasn't serious enough or
some such nonsense?

Phil Bowles

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