Re: Is Gridlock an anti-religion parable?

In article <2007071308545375249-thecroft@macunlimitednet>,
Andrew <thecroft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2007-07-13 03:13:03 +0100, doctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (The Doctor) said:

In article <2007071300393075249-thecroft@macunlimitednet>,
Andrew <thecroft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2007-07-13 00:07:24 +0100, doctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (The Doctor) said:

In article <2007071223512150073-thecroft@macunlimitednet>,
Andrew <thecroft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2007-07-12 23:30:09 +0100, "Beeblebear" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx the
presidentfsnet.co.uk> said:


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On Jul 11, 3:09 am, Andrew <thecr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think it's lacking coherence because you're trying too hard to find a
message that isn't actually there.

No, you missed my point: I thought it was incoherent from the time I
first saw it, weeks ago. All the elements -- New Earth, drugs, the
traffic jam, the Macra, the Face of Boe, the hymns -- seem thrown
together randomly.

This anti-religion interpretation only just occurred to me last night,
and is the only way I've come up with that makes all the random
elements seem to have any consistency.

Too much, I think, is made of RTD being an atheist. He may well be, but
his treatment of religious faith is usually more sophisticated and less
didactic than you suggest.

I'm not saying he totally disses religion. Even in Gridlock, he
suggests that religious people (like Nurse Hame) are capable of
genuine repentance and goodness, and that faith (in the form of the
hymns) can sustain people and be emotionally moving.

Still, the episode as a whole points in an anti-religious direction.
The "pilgrimage" that all the drivers are on is an empty sham, and
their misguided belief keeps them trapped there.

But their pilgramage is what saved them from a particularly nasty fate.
That is a good thing.

I think this is what I like about Gridlock (and I seem to be in a
minority in that I did like Gridlock). It can be understood in a number
of different ways depending on your attitude to things like faith,
purpose in life and hope.

Still RTD does remind me of a Star Trek TOS episode: The Roman 1960s
Empire one.

Nope - you've lost me there.


If I can recal the Title then I can get it correct.

I know the episode (Bread And Circuses). I just don't see the connection.


RTD is Bread and Circuses - The one mocking Christ the Son.
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