Re: A few questions about TLOTTL

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:07:04 -0600, Bruce Grubb <bgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Okay.. so Jack is the face of Bo. I'm a bit confused on how he will
ever change from humanoid into a large head in a jar. I wonder what
the in-between stages look like. Anyway, the fact that the face of Bo
dies is sort of contradictory to what the Doctor said. He said that
Rose brought him back forever. Will, billions of years is a long
time, but it isn't forever. Maybe he was speaking figurativley.

Perhaps Rose only brought back Jack Harkness back forever. Though Doctor
Who admittedly is full of continuity headaches like this-trying to make
sense of some of them just give you migraines. Like the fact that the
Toclafane have already killed two people *before* the Master started up his
Paradox machine. That should have brought out the Reavers faster than you
could say what happened?

I don't recall anyone actually saying that Jack would live
forever. The Doctor outright says he *doesn't know* if Jack's
condition is permanent. He seems to be a fixed point in time, but
that does not actually mean that he will always be so. Nothing they
say about Jack's condition implies that this state of affairs could
not potentially "wear off" some day.

As to the whole thing with the Toclafane killing people, I also don't
see what the big deal is. The Toclafane killing a few people here and
there doesn't alter history in a way that undermines their own
existance. It's only when they emerge en masse and start decimating
the population that they create a paradox.

THe *existance* of the Toclafane isn't a paradox. Their time traveling
isn't a paradox. It's only the conquest, subjugation, and pending extinction
of humanity that is a paradox.



Then there was the whole mess with Harriet Jones who was 'supposed to be'
Prime minister three terms in a row and create Britain's Golden Age. The
Doctor took actions in "The Christmas Invasion" derailing that future which
again should have produced reavers out the wazoo.


I think you, like many people, misunderstood what brought the flying
killer time monkeys into the world. It's *not* changing history.
It's not even creating a paradox. It's the undermining of your own
personal timeline. THe Doctor says outright in Father's Day that the
reason it happened was because *their being there twice made the
timeline vulnerable*. Had Rose saved her dad the first time around,
the Doctor would have been pissed off, but there would be no time
monkeys.
.

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