Re: Cyer-Letdown. (Spoilers)


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On Mon, 15 May 2006 05:24:21 +0100, Agamemnon
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"Sean Huxter" <sean.huxter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not likely. The divergent point seems to have happened
sometime during the
last great War. I doubt Zeppelins made a huge comeback after
Jackie and Pete
got married,

They could have done.

From a quick look at Google, it seems that helium is
extracted from natural
gas. So if the North Sea was richer in gas than oil, and
Cybus produced a
cheap method of extracting the helium from that gas in the
late 70's, Britain would have the ideal circumstances for
increased airship (not Zeppelin) production; cheap helium,
expensive oil (since there was less of
it) and an already booming airship industry: the ubiquitous
Airship Industries' Skyship 600 made it's maiden flight in
1984 in our timeline,

The time lines diverged some time after 1982 when the Lion
Sleeps Tonight came out and before 2006 so the ratio of known
gas/oil in the North Sea before 1982 would have been the same.


Even if we accept that the time lines had to "diverge" (Which I
don't), we still don't know when they diverved. Had they
diverged in 1960, the two universes might still have been
sufficiently similar in 1982 that 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' was
still recorded.

No they wouldn't. Even if the performers had been born they
would never have met and never formed a band or even recorded
the same arrangement and mix if they had and Mickey/Ricky would
never have been conceived in any case. If JFK had not been
assassinated in 1963 nobody in the world today who was
conceived after November 22 1963 would exist and that includes
people living deep in the rain forests in isolation from the
rest of mankind.

It's an interesting question this.

Let us for a moment suppose that there are a non-infinite number
of universes- but that there is one for every possible history
of the universe
since the Big Bang. We know that at the quantum level the
universe is random- so every time a quantum interaction occurs,
the universe "splits"

There is nothing at all which is random on the quantum level.
Quantum theory follows a predefined set of mathematical laws and
is entirely deterministic. Even if you wait forever the Pauli
exclusion principle will never be violated and so on.

Of course there is. The probabilities are rigorously defined, but
the outcome of any individual observation inherently cannot be
predicted. That's

I think you'll find that it can.

No. There is no way to predict the outcome of any measurement. That
is the very basis of QM!

The outcome of any measurement can be predicted and an expectation
value can be calculated for each possible outcome.

If you fire an individual photon at a pair of perfect slits (in a
perfect system) each photon will interfere with itself and will
appear only at the peaks (but you don't know at which peak it will
actually turn up are at a particular point in time) and will never
appear at any of the troughs in the a diffraction pattern that is
predicted. If you repeat the experiment again and again you will
eventually build up the diffraction pattern from the results at the
detector.



simple diffraction pattern analogous to a sine wave, the height of the wave
being the probability of a particular photon striking that point. The
"peaks" are thus for want of a better word diffuse. You seem to think they
are hard-edged areas. They aren't. A photon can appear anywhere across the

I was trying to illustrate to you that in a perfect system you will not find any photons where the probability for finding them is zero and there is nothing that you can do to change that. Quantum theory does not work randomly, it follows fixed mathematical rules. The maths tells you what to expect and that's what you get. I was trying to avoid having to write down all the maths and making this thread inaccessible to most people, but I can see that my simplifications are no substitute for the theory itself. I suggest that anyone that wants to fully understand Quantum theory studies the theory on a mathematical level and not on a popular science level before they start talking about it.

The original discussion was weather Rose would have been conceived in the parallel universe even if Mickey was called Ricky. The answer is no. All of the possible quantum outcomes would lead to the expectation value of Rose being born to be zero.

Rose's parents would not have fucked at the right time and the DNA could never have combined in the right way and the baby evolved to be Rose. Rose is only Rose because she was born when she was under the circumstance she was born in.

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