Re: Christmas invasion, minor spoilers


"Jaxtraw" <jax@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Mike Morris" <nyder_o_leary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Frankymole wrote:
>>
>> > "Mike Morris" <nyder_o_leary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > > In the context of the show, shooting
>> > > the Sygorax was clearly, obviously wrong.
>> >
>> > It is nothing of the sort, in the context of the show's Harriet Jones
>> > ("you're a very violent young lady, aren't you" she said to Rose in
> WW3).
>> >
>> > It is meant to be a moot point and clearly is ambiguous, or we would
>> > not
> be
>> > having these discussions cropping up everywhere TCI is discussed.
>>
>> Well... in general the Doctor is our moral guide through these issues
>> (not always, but if not we really know it), and his reaction is pretty
>> unambiguous. Even the reaction of Harriet herself suggests that, in her
>> gut, she knows she's doing the wrong thing. Doctor Who is one of those
>> shows with moral issues that are discussed in absolutes - not black and
>> white as such, but no mitigating circumstances and no pussyfootying
>> about. What we're seeing is Harriet's slide into "well it's a complex
>> issue" rhetoric to justify an action that's just plain wrong.
>>
>
> She made the tough decision to do the right thing. I daresay many (some
> anyway) leaders, having to order military action, have felt bad about it
> personally but knew it was the right thing to do. She destroyed an enemy
> who
> clearly had no concept of decency in war. They're slavers. They threatened
> to murder 2 billion people. They're not party to the Geneva Convention.
> Who
> knows whether they would keep their word, or whether the Doctor is
> trustworthy? Imagine the scene in the Commons-
>
> "Can the right honourable lady confirm that the aliens left because they
> promised a supposed time traveller who has since disappeared? Can the
> right
> honourable lady explain what authority she gave this alien to act on
> behalf
> of the Earth?" etc
>
> They Sycorax were clearly a bunch of c*nts who've done this sort of thing
> before. You don't want your spaceship blown up, don't go invading places.
> Kind of thing.


"He who lives by the sword dies by the sword". Literally.


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