Re: Photo of WDW Welcome arch over Road 536-RODNEY (and everyone)

Randy Berbaum wrote:

"Keane" <keane_radp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:jkam045lt5ap5eb18632s76cl453mqnlqu@xxxxxxxxxx


I've actually got a 35mm (Kodak, I think) stereo camera. I should
shoot a roll, and try to have it developed someplace. ("Stereo?
Are you sure you aren't talking audio?" HAhahahaha...)


You should be able to take the roll to any 1 hour photo for under $5.
Tell them to develop the roll only and absolutely "DO NOT CUT IT!!"
Cut the negatives at home. I you let them cut them they are certain to separate pairs.
Stick around for the duration. I have caught them putting fingerprints all over the negatives as they dragged it on the floor and rolled it up by running their hands down the emulsion, grinding the floor crap into the image in long streaks. And that was after having admonished the operator to be careful with it please, and handle it only by the edges.
Bring your own film can to wind the processed film into. Once I got back the can of developed negative, and the film was dusted in green powder, which I assume was marijuana.
When you have them printed bring them the properly cut negatives and tell them to print the whole image as one panoramic shot.

Cross your eyes and view the Phone Booth outside the Indiana Jones Temple of the Forbidden Eye, posted at the top of this page:
http://disneywizard.angelfire.com/stereo.html
Just to the left is a woman seated near a stroller, her hand was in motion when the shot was snapped.
Cha-cha shifting would not have worked. Her hand would have been in a different position for the second shot.
The phone booth shot was taken with Nishika N8000 and the print digitally captured with a digital camera, which you can see in reflection off of the print in the center of the pair. I have used this four lens, simultaneous shutter camera to photograph the interior of the Lilly Belle. The camera is designed to use ASA 100 film, but I had loaded it with Fuji 800, and delayed the shutter to interior of the three speed settings, using no flash. They came out grainy, washed out, and no detail in the shadows. I was testing the film in the camera when the opportunity arose. What I should have done was to unload the 800 speed and load 100 speed Ektachrome and mounted the flash.

But you will see on the the page some more difficult shots taken from stereo interlocked Bolex 16mm matched pair cinema cameras.
The next image is Goofy spinning a girl while her hair is centrifugally flying outward.
Two Bolex movie cameras running in 18 frames / second, triggered with interlocked 'bulb' cables, allowed me to choose, from among many frame pairs, the pair in which the only Goofy's face is identifiable. The lenses were for Bolex 8mm cameras with C-mount adapter rings to mount them. That was the only option I had to match the lenses, which resulted in some vignetting in the bottom corners. There's a guy in a blue shirt running to the right and I particularly like that the dancer's arms frame the Horse Drawn Trolley being pulled past the Opera House. With cha-cha shifting, this stereo pair would not have worked at all.

Have you tried shooting digital stereo pairs? I have used the cha-cha method to get some fun stereo pairs.


Cha-cha shifting is also time shifting. I have seen some wonderful shots of Walt's apartment over the fire house done with a more precise machined sliding bar fixed to a tripod to great effect, again the time shifted as well as the camera but the scene was stable and the curtains still. These shots were referenced in a post either here in r.a.d.parks or on news:alt.disney.disneyland several years back.

I have done some experimenting with converting time lapsed video stills to stereo pair images from the Pirates of the Caribbean and will post them soon to:
http://disneywizard.angelfire.com/stereo.html
The ride vehicle effectively performs the cha-cha shift for me over time. Then I select a pair of images moments apart and splice them together for an effectively stereo image.

The problem with cha-cha is that, to pull it off, nothing can change in the image but your position.
This actually works quite well in Pirates because the boat moves but the scene doesn't.
Although the spot where Jack Sparrow is hiding behind the dressmaker's model took several passes to achieve the correct pair because, it seems, the figure is constantly in motion. In this case the left is going and right is coming, but they were otherwise about the same distance from the lens. You can tell by his dreadlocks angles.

Cha-cha method you ask? Easy. Stand with your feet about sholder width apart. Shift your weight to one foot (which shifts your body toward that foot). snap one image. Then shift your weight to the other foot and snap another image. Practice makes it easy to get alligned image pairs.


I frame with a spot in mind in one of the corners of the frame, so I mentally mark the spot as I snap and then re-align the shifted camera to the same corner reference.

To view, print (or display on screen) the two images side by side sized and positioned so the centers of the images are about 3" apart and perfectly alligned horizontally. Some people place them with the one shot on the left printed on the right. And view them by crossing the eyes. Others are unable to cross the eyes properly and print them left to left and use a divider to seperate the images (like in the old stereopticons).


I prefer the crossed eyes method for online display, it allows greater flexibility in monitor sizes.

Samples and a fairly good primer here and there are LOTS of other sites on stereo photography around the web.

http://www.hutchcolor.com/stereo_photography.html

Randy (not associated in any way with the above site, but a quick search found this site to be fairly good.)

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