Re: Rudeney already voted.

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:35:51 GMT, Charlie Foxtrot
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Yeah, it was pretty mean-spirited and irresponsible, now wasn't it?
Now I've got to go and read the entire thread to see if someone goaded
me into mentioning the word "autistic" for MickeyC to take it out of
context and get huffy.

Well, what do you know? I DIDN'T say the kid was autistic. After
Dana suggested it as a POSSIBILITY I agreed it was but not the top
priority to look at.

Here's what I wrote, responding to - imagine this - MickeyC who kept
insisting that I had said the boy was autistic and how terrible and
irresponsible that was. Never mind that I actually said autism was a
possibility but unlikely.

Here's what I said (a little less than a month shy of two years ago -
funny how deep the usual suspects will dig in order to try to make up
something "terrible" I once didn't really say)

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IMHO, Dana's "style" does not even come into play in this situation.
She made a simple statement, that the person in question's description
of her 17 year old's behavior had some signs of autism. It's not like
she said it in a mean, derogatory or flipant manner. She just said
that's what it sounded like to her. I fail to see anything wrong with
that when you consider that, yes, indeed, the description that the
poster gave of the kid mirror some behaviors that do, in fact, suggest
a form of autism my exist in the child. (Tolerates few foods, shuns
typical child/teenager interests, muted social interactions)

Now, I wouldn't place autism as my top speculation, based on these
descriptions, but it can not be ruled out as a possibility. The fact
is, the kid displays multiple signs of social and/or psychological
disfunctions and I think it's a shame that two of you want to act like
there's no problem with that. Even worse is that you, so strongly,
wish to "not offend" anyone and take great offense at those you
perceive as "offensive" to such an extent that you'd scream to the
person being offered advice to close their ears to such "blatant
disregard for their feelings."

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Amazing, isn't it? So, what's it going to be Mickey, are you going to
go with what was written or what you wish I had written?

After you completely ignored the fact that I didn't suggest autism,
you went on to rip me on saying something I never said, which produced
this nice little exchange.

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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 17:04:03 GMT, mickeyc_78SH...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:47:29 GMT, Charlie Foxtrot
<romeo-ta...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IMHO, Dana's "style" does not even come into play in this situation.
She made a simple statement, that the person in question's description
of her 17 year old's behavior had some signs of autism. It's not like
she said it in a mean, derogatory or flipant manner. She just said
that's what it sounded like to her. I fail to see anything wrong with
that when you consider that, yes, indeed, the description that the
poster gave of the kid mirror some behaviors that do, in fact, suggest
a form of autism my exist in the child. (Tolerates few foods, shuns
typical child/teenager interests, muted social interactions)


Proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.



I'm not sure what you mean, here. For the record, I did not suggest
autism. I agreed that it was a possibility after it was mentioned and
said that it would NOT be the top speculation but it can not be ruled
out, based on what we know.


Now, I wouldn't place autism as my top speculation, based on these
descriptions, but it can not be ruled out as a possibility. The fact
is, the kid displays multiple signs of social and/or psychological
disfunctions and I think it's a shame that two of you want to act like
there's no problem with that. Even worse is that you, so strongly,
wish to "not offend" anyone and take great offense at those you
perceive as "offensive" to such an extent that you'd scream to the
person being offered advice to close their ears to such "blatant
disregard for their feelings."


Never said it was offensive-said it was irresponsible and inaccurate.



You explain to me how suggesting having a kid, who displays multiple
abnormal behaviors, evaluated is irresponsible? I think ignoring it
is what's irresponsible.

Also, what is innaccurate in stating that these behaviors are symptoms
of - I have mentioned after autism was suggested -
obsessive/compulsive disorder, schizophrenia or depression? They ARE
symptoms of those disorders.
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So, Mickey, are you going to go on, suggesting that I said something I
didn't? I mean, it wouldn't be the first time. Maybe if you say it
enough, it will become real and I'll be the evil prick you so want me
to be.

Oh, yeah, just one more thing, since this was all inspired by the
terrible things I didn't do... Here's the mother in question (by
Princess Buttercup's flawed memories) had to say about what I REALLY
DID SAY:

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Actually, I think you are both right. Foxtrot, I didn't take offense
and
appreciated the advice.

Honestly, I do think my son could benefit from counseling, but I don't
think
it's a dire as Foxtrot painted it either.
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So, anyone else want to step into the batter's box? Princess and
Mickey have struck out.

Foxtrot
.