Re: Dinner at the Plaza in the Magic Kingdom, "my experience."


"Charlie Foxtrot" <Bennett6570@xxxxxxx> wrote

> Right now, the IRS assumes 8% of an individual server's sales to be
> their tipped income. This is because they realize that there are
> plenty of "Eds" out there who stiff wait staff since they aren't
> educated enough or skilled enough to deserve to earn a decent living.

Boy, have you got me wrong. I can see why you failed your education.

> So, we have to do matching Social Security on $3.13 per hour plus 8%
> of sales. The $3.13 is Florida minimum wage, which is a dollar more
> than the federal minimum wage for tipped employees, which is $2.13
> plus tips.
>
> Even if we just paid them something akin to 15% of the sales, we'd
> have more costs involved in matching SS payments.

Of course, this explains your position. All of it self serving.

> Force these establishments to suddenly pay salaries and matching
> Social Security and menu prices are increasing, significantly.

What a shame. Why shouldn't these establishments be treated just as any
other business is?

> There are also workers compensation insurance payments, based on
> payroll. These fees would increase if we were paying higher wages.

More reasons to support your conflict of interest. You don't care about your
employees and you're proving it right here.

> Overtime would be a major factor for smaller places where some servers
> could pull OT.

Sad, so sad.

> Then, figure in that we'd still have to pay the same hourly for prep
> and close time, which would be a minimum of two hours per day.

Hon, get me the Kleenex please.

> Then factor in that if we have a slow day due to a heavy storm or
> something, then the servers don't make money, just as the
> establishment doesn't make money. Put a car wreck on the road in
> front of the business and no way for customers to get in the parking
> lot... Well, we'd still have to pay them their twenty bucks an hour
> with no business. Have to factor in potential hours of operating at a
> loss, which most good restaurants and bars don't have to worry about.

They should.

> Don't forget, we'll want our profit margin to remain at the same
> percentage on our return on investment so that's going to play a part
> too.

Nobody will come, you'll close your doors.

> Also, remember that bussers, servers and bartenders are tipped a
> percentage of each server's tips. They would expect to be making the
> same amount of money too and our matching SS taxes, workers comp
> insurance, etc. would increase on them as well.
>
> Lot's of little extras would add up to about a 25% mark-up on the menu

You mean like the $100 tip on the $400 meal. No difference, except that now
the employee is sure of getting his money.

> The whole thing is people, like Ed, who are concerned about the cost,
> would completely balk at the idea of paying more. Remember, these
> prices would jump overnight, the day legislation went into effect
> banning tipping.

The end price would be the same. The employees would get a better deal and
you would earn less. I like the whole concept.

> A quick example would be the dinner we had, yesterday. The tab came
> to $118. I left a $27 tip. The meal took 90 minutes. The server
> made $18 an hour, just from my table. I know I'm not the only one who
> tipped her well. I try to have confidence that the Eds are a minority
> and not many under tipped her.

I'm not in any minority, most people would not pay $400 for dinner. In most
restaurants it's not even possible. I'm in the majority. You just don't like
the idea of paying a fair wage.

> Take it the other direction and pay about $6.50 an hour to servers,
> which is what I'm thinking Ed thinks they should do, and that young
> lady wouldn't even think of taking on the job.

You aren't capable of thinking outside of your own self-centered greed.

> Hope that nutshell summation worked for you, Nicholas.

It worked for me, Chuckie.


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