Re: Obese at Disney World

Jan Bordelon wrote:
Rodney wrote: 
However, I have found that for me, I
because I can have pretty much all the
meat and non-sweetened dairy products I
want, I can live with this lifestyle much
better than one that limits my caloric
intake.


So, you're still insisting that Sugar Busters allows pretty much all
the meat and non-sweetened dairy products that you want even after the
quotes from the Sugar Busters book about portion size that I posted?

First of all, dairy products do contain lactose which is a type of sugar. It is much harder to digest and convert to fat than sucrose, maltose and even fructose. In excess quantities, it will be stored as fat and I won't argue that. In normal quantities, on an otherwise low-carb diet, it is acceptable. That's what I mean by being able to eat as much as I want. If I were on a calorie-counting diet such as WW, I'd likely be eating carb-loaded fat-free ice cream and fat free cheeses supplemented with carbs, all the while believing I was doing some good when in fact I would be spiking my blood sugar and putting on the weight. As it is now, if I want to have two slices of Tillamook, I don't worry about it.

There is a paradox in Sugar Busters. On the one hand, the cite all the scientific evidence that there is no mechanism within the body to convert excess consumed fats and protein into stored fat. On the other hand they say to limit portion sizes. If you dig deeper into the medical information they researched, you will find out there are several reasons for limiting portion size. One, there actually is a mechanism where the body can convert just about any consumed organic matter into fat. It's not an easy process, but a very inactive person can have this happen and cause weight gain. The very basic exercise most of us get in our daily lives is usually enough to prevent this, but since it is still a possibility, they want to cover that base. Also, excess fat an protein in the blood stream combined with any amount of consumed carbohydrates can lead to plaque formation in the arteries and that is a most unhealthy situation. Finally, one of the key factors in successful dieting is curb cravings. By eating smaller portions, the stomach is allowed to shrink and so will the sense of "hunger".

I checked on Fitday.com (a website that I use to keep track of my
daily calorie and nutrition info) on that 32oz steak of yours,
Rodney.  The calorie count for a lean 32oz steak was 1788 calories!
That's more calories than I allow myself for an entire day!  Even
when I'm on Sugar Busters!  Did you ever visit that Sugar Busters
discussion board and ask about portion size?

I don't ever visit the SB discussion board. I read the book about six years ago and at the same time, I read some of the medical texts that the authors referenced. I consulted (and still do) with my BIL who is a surgeon and has extensively studied this topic. One of the things you might have remember from reading the book is that "calories don't count". It's not about the heat energy stored in the molecules as much as it is the ability of the body to quickly convert certain molecules to simple sugars which the body does not need and then stores as fat.

Don't get me wrong, I don't make a habit out of eating 32oz of meat all the time, but when I am hungry and craving that, I can eat it without fear of having it "crash" my whole diet. My wife who is on WW can have about 4oz of "lean" meat before she has to start borrowing points from another meal or using her flex points. I don't believe she is allowed enough flex points in a week combined with an entire day's worth of points to eat 32oz of hardly anything. As I have been discussing, my belief is that will power and self control are everything. If all I could have was 3-4oz of meat, I would be very unhappy and would likely not have the will power to control my diet. Just knowing that I can have that 32oz porterhouse, or even a 9oz filet mignon is the psychological reinforcement that gives me the self control to not binge on a box of Krispy Kremes.

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