Re: Obese at Disney World

Mike C wrote:
Rudeney wrote: 
Regardless, I have always respected you as an intelligent
contributor on RADP and I still do even.


"... but, you have no self control or will power."

That's not a direct quote, of course, but how else to interpret
"99.99% of obese are that way because of a lack of self control"?

So what else is it? Like I've been saying, unless you have some rare medical condition, the only way to increase the size of your body is to put food into it. If you put too much of the wrong types of food in it, and you don't use that excess energy, you will become obese. The only way to prevent it is to control the intake and the only person that control your food intake is you . I'm not saying it's easy, but it is what it is.

When you make blanket statements like that, how else do you expect
people to respond? > Would you not feel insulted if someone said
"99.99% people from Alabama are stupid"?
(No, I'm NOT saying that. :-))

No, because it's not far from the truth! :-) Seriously, Mike, if you want to argue the points, argue the points, don't throw out a straw man. Intelligence has nothing to do with a lack of self control and will power.


And, for what it's worth, I would like to know why you are *not* able
to maintain your weight on Weight Watchers. If it's ONLY a matter of
will power, you should be able to succeed on ANY diet. You should be
able to maintain your weight indefinitely on a diet consisting solely
of french fry sandwiches, right?

You missed the whole point. I actually did lose weight on WW, but I was unable to keep it off because it was a diet I was unable to stick with. It deprived me of two things that are very important to my ability to control my food intake, and that is (1) the ability to eat a full meal and feel full and (2) the ability to eat a lot of the foods I like. Yes, I realize that with any "diet" I have to change my eating habits, because obviously what I was eating when I was gaining weight was not going to also allow me to loose weight. However, I love meat. In fact, my favorite meal would probably be the biggest, juiciest steak you could find and a huge salad slathers in blue cheese dressing along with a side of steamed vegetables. On WW, I could have about four bites of that and yes, I would lose weight. On Sugar Busters, I can have all of that and lose more weight.

In fact, you've already answered my question: you've admitted that you
could not control your weight before you found a low-carb regimen that
worked for you. So, really, the only difference between you and those
obese people on ECVs is that you were persistent enough, or *lucky*
enough, to find a diet that worked for *you*. In your case, will power
and self control had NOTHING to do with it, because before Sugar
Busters you were well on your way to 300lbs and beyond.

You are halfway there in understanding my point. I lacked the will power and self control to stick to WW because it did not allow me enough eating pleasure, but Sugar Busters did. In that respect, you are correct. Where you are wrong is with the will power/self control issue. Yes, I admit I lacked the will power to change my lifestyle so that I ate only small handfuls of food as dictate by WW. However, with Sugar Busters, I've had to give up a lot of things that I really like, including beer, donuts, cake, cookies, ice cream, pastries, biscuits, pasta, etc. Of course I have learned that small amounts of whole grain breads and pastas are acceptable, and I also allow myself a few sugar-free cookies or some no-sugar-added ice cream to satisfy my sweet tooth. However, I have found that for me, I because I can have pretty much all the meat and non-sweetened dairy products I want, I can live with this lifestyle much better than one that limits my caloric intake.

Of course I am not saying that my body chemistry is different from yours in respect to the way I process the food I eat. What I am saying is that my psychological addiction to food is different. While some people can fill up on carrots, celery, a naked potato and 3oz of meat, that does not satisfy me, and that is not a lifestyle I can live with.

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- RODNEY

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