Re: Dress Code for everyone at a Swing Convention for a specific time frame - Thoughts?

"Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:39:08 -0700, Jon Leech
<nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If you want to criticize something, it should be something that, you
know,
someone *actually wrote* in this thread. Which pretty well applies to the
rest
of your screed as well.

Just a response from following of the general threads concerning dress
codes... I'm
really too uncaring about the subject with the present mindset of rad
except to state that
dress codes do exist and for some very good reasons. Costume and
masquerade balls require
costumes for a very good reason.

That would be because they are "Costume and Masquerade Balls". They require
"costume and masquerade" wear because that's the obvious wear for the
evening. What's often not obvious is the imposition of an arbitrary Dress
Code -- especially if it occurs after tickets are sold.

So Jon...here's what people "actually wrote" in this thread
excerpt from this thread
Just wanting your opinion on a Swing Dance Convention having a required
Dress Code for everyone in the Ballroom during certain hours.
**********

Requirements for Dressing to Impress:

When - Friday & Saturday Evenings from 7:00 p.m. - Midnight.

Men - Dress Slacks or Dress Pants. Coat & Tie not required. Shirts with
Collars (Polo & Dress). NO Jeans, NO Tennis Shoes, NO T-shirts

Ladies - Dresses, Skirts, Dance Pants acceptable. No Jeans.
**********

From the Ron N. thread
Does anyone know how well the "costume nazi's" succeed at
the various vintage dance events (Victorian, Gaskells, Deco, etc.)?

How do the rules at these events work? Many dancers seem to
like to attend these events in spites of the dress code.

excerpt from the bob ford response
I personally take issue with an event promoter being able to tell the
customers what they can and can not wear but if they choose to head
down that road, it clearly needs to be spelled out WAY before they buy
their tickets.

Seems to me, the whole thing is very simple....a venue that has to
explictly
say NO T SHIRTS NO JEANS suggests that unless told otherwise
people will be wearing (you guessed it ) T Shirts and Jeans.

Nonsense. You assume too much. Your poor excuse for "logic" would assume
that if a place removed the sign "no shirts, no shoes, no service" it's
customers would suddenly rip their shirts and shoes off! I'ts as asinine as
it is funny.

Dress Codes -- of any kind and to any degree are fine -- PROVIDED THEY ARE
CLEARLY SPELLED OUT BEFOREHAND.

If I bought a ticket for an event and travelled there only to discover that
they now require me to wear a tux and tails, I'd be justifiably pissed. And
I don't wear Ts or Jeans. I don't even wear casual pants such as Dockers.
And I'm one of the very rare males who wear a tie and suit to almost every
dance I attend. I LIKE to dress up for a dance. But I also know others who
put as much effort into it as I do and don't wear what I wear. The usual
dress code is "no jeans" and a minimum standard of "smart casual". But
everyone knows that before they buy a ticket and dress appropriately. If a
person doesn't like that dress code, they don't buy a ticket. If they buy a
ticket they accept the "rules of engagement".

Some people like to impose their own standards on others.
Sometimes it's because they actually believe it raises the "tone" of the
crowd -- though I'm reminded of the old saw about not being able to make a
silk purse from a pig's ear!
Sometimes it's because they want to use a Dress Code to exclude a certain
segment of society they deem unsavory or not their kind of people -- I've
seen this done at a club that went "upscale". They imposed a Dress Code that
excluded most of the "looks like a gang member" crowd and the place really
picked up. The way these "looks like a gang member" (mainly young people)
dressed made older (and usually richer) patrons uncomfortable so they
changed the rules and they either "dressed smart" or they were excluded.
Some do it just because they have to the power to do so and making others
look like them affirms their dress choice or gives them a sense of power and
control over others.
Some do it bcause it's completely approproriate to do so. A Black Tie Dinner
(usually means Tux/Tails, Bow Tie, White Shirt, highly polished black shoes
on men, elegant evening gown on women) for example. A person who didn't know
turning up to such an event in a pair of Dockers and a golf shirt, no matter
how smart and clean, would be completely out of place and probably publicly
embarrassed.

Footwear: I think it's completely appropriate and considerate of all to
impose restrictions on footwear. The first of which is "no outdoor wear
allowed!'. I'm tired of ruining perfectly good dance shoes and seeing
wonderful floor ruined because someone wears grifilled or even wet and muddy
shoes into a dance or class. Sneakers are not appropriate wear for most
floors. Neither are black rubber soled shoes -- or whatever it is that
leaves black smear marks on polished maple!


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