Re: Creativity vs. Control


"Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Larry Gantman" <payopts@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> "Larry Gantman" <payopts@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> > "Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> Your question is a bit tricky because "who wins" or "who loses"
> >> >> depends
> >> >> on
> >> > a
> >> >> whole bunch of factors.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yes, that's why I'm focusing on the effect of leaders who are more
> > apt
> >> > to control exactly what their partners do during every step of a WCS
> >> > JnJ
> >> > competition, as compared with leaders who create an environment on
the
> >> > dance
> >> > floor where both partners can be creative and expressive in relation
to
> >> > the
> >> > music. I'm also referring to situations in which followers are
> > competent
> >> > and more expressive when dancing with partners other than Dancer "A"
> >> > and
> >> > Dancer "B." In other words, it's observable to judges that both
> >> > leaders
> >> > are
> >> > controlling their followers so that their precise plan can be
effected
> > and
> >> > that it negatively affects their partners' creativity on the dance
> > floor.
> >> > Granted that both leaders have positive characteristics to their
> > dancing;
> >> > for example, good timing and preparation for musical breaks. Yet
they
> > do
> >> > not facilitate synergistic performance to music. Instead, they
produce
> >> > repetitive patterns, which they have become more or less adept at
> > imposing
> >> > on their partners, without providing "play time" for their partners
to
> >> > improvise or add to the performance.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> There are few absolutes in dancing. Most things that are deemed
> >> "appropriate" are only done so in increments or degrees.
> >> And then by varying amounts depending on which judge you ask.
> >> What you call "control" some may see as "lead".
> >
> >
> >
> > Okay. Yet examples were provided of situations in which it was evident
> > that
> > the leaders were overdirecting everything and the followers were going
> > along
> > for the ride. So I'm curious if some judges prefer this kind of dancing
> > to
> > having both capable partners fully express themselves to the music.
> >
> >
>
>
> I'm sorry. I didn't see where there was an "evident" example.
> My "interpretation" was the example offended _you_.



Thanks for your candor. If I'm offended, it's that the possibility exists
that judges appreciate a dance where the follower is "contained " more than
a dance where each capable dancer contributes to a partnership with each
other and the music through individual expression of talent and musical
interpretation. In a WCS JnJ, the leader can create or inhibit the
necessary environment.



> Without actually seeing it, I don't know what _I_ would have thought of
the
> situation. But if it's a situation where the leader is "forcing" and
> "controlling" in lieu of "leading" then it should be obvious that most
> qualified judges will not look upon that kindly.
> (Unhand that vixen...you varmint!> :>))
>
>



Agreed. Could it be that some leaders have so much talent that this aspect
is ignored?

Larry Gantman


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