Re: OT: Political

"Huck Kennedy" <kennedy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:IML0sr.BzG@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> "cookoonest" <cookoonest@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> "Bob Wheatley" <xmaster.dancer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > "cookoonest" the top posting birdbrain top posted:
>> >
>> > http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
>>
>> When I open a new post I want to see what the person posting has to say
>> right at the top. I don't want to be forced to scroll down, sometimes
>> several windows, to see the original post. If I decide I need to see the
>> original post I can then scroll down to see it.
>
> But you see, it's not about you (even though
> your politics seem to be quite up to snuff from what
> I've seen so far). It's about the Usenet medium and
> its long-established conventions. Usenet convention
> is the funny little cascaded ">" signs, with each new
> entry being added to the bottom (or actually, directly
> after the relevant quoted text, so your reply can be
> interspersed). Usenet started in the early 80's, so
> this convention is well entrenched, and is what everyone
> is used to.
>
> When someone is new at a company, they do not
> start demanding to be exempt from long-established
> company policy. It's the same here on Usenet.
>
> Notice how I am commenting on this part of your
> post, and now I'll quote more from you and comment
> on that. That's how it's done. By just tacking
> stuff onto the top, you can only reply to the entire
> post en masse, instead of addressing individual
> points as they arise in the quoted text.
>
>> I have noticed that most people replying to an email place the reply at
>> the
>> top for that very reason. It just makes sense.
>
> No, most do it for that reason because they
> are computer illiterates (not necessarily accusing
> you of this) who know nothing other than their
> little Bill Gates Microsoft Outlook email world,
> which automatically uses the lump-onto-the-top
> protocol. If you ask them what Unix is (which was
> primarily in use when Usenet started), they just
> look at you like a deer caught in the headlights.
>
>> But if it will keep Bob Wheatley from using foul and indecent language I
>> will be happy to do it for the general good. I'm willing to follow all
>> the
>> other donkeys and be a team player.
>>
>> Can't we all just get along?
>
> Admittedly, it takes some practice to bend
> Microsoft to the old, simple ASCII Unix mail style,
> but that style really does work best for this medium.
> Had I used the Bill Gates method, I'd have somehow
> had to address all your points in one big lump at the
> beginning, instead of going through them one by one
> in an organized manner.
>
> Huck

I realize the advantage to replying section by section, although you could
put your responses at the top of each section. I am also aware that it is
now customary to reply at bottom of the original post(s).

Just because something has become conventional doesn't mean that it has to
stay that way.
I had to scroll down 2 screens to get to the end of the above posts and the
next person replying will have to scroll down 3 screens, etc. etc. Unless
they are to replying by section.

As time goes on more and more people using the Internet have, and will be
"Bill Gates Microsoft Outlook email" type of people. Those people now find
it easier and more logical to put their reply's at the top of the original
response.

When I started into computers programming was done by manually wiring
boards. Where would we be today if computers still operated that way?

I wasn't demanding anything. I just through it out as an alternative to see
what the response might be.


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