Re: Non Sequitur vs. LICD



In article <de8edf28-bfca-4bda-bcd7-d299f374caeb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
PatONeill <patdoneill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On May 27, 12:15 pm, JC Dill <jcdill.li...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
PatONeill wrote:
I'm sorry, I read those links and I see a lot of pie in the sky. I
don't see anything

To a man with a hammer in his hand, every problem looks like a nail.

I have explained screws to you, and told you how a screwdriver works.
Apparently you keep walking up to screws, trying to bash on them with
your hammer, and remain baffled at how these new fasteners can possibly
be easy to use or hold things together.  Put DOWN the hammer, take up
the screwdriver (RSS feeder) and try this stuff out.  Add a few blogs,
follow them daily, look for new blogs, drop the ones that don't interest
you.  Learn how it WORKS by experiencing it.  Until you do this, your
hammer-centric philosophy will keep misleading you about how the new
technology actually works.

A friend once described Burning Man as famously indescribable.  This is
very true.  No matter how many times one has gone to Burning Man, or how
well you try to describe it to someone, their experience will never
match what you tried to describe it as.  To understand Burning Man you
have to experience Burning Man.  The internet is that way, and blogging
is that way too.

Good luck on selling your photography in the future you envision; good
luck on getting paid for it when somebody uses your on-line posted
pics without payment or permission.

You keep missing the forest for the trees.  Good luck surviving "in the
wild" in this digital age.  I've given you all the road-maps I can -
it's up to you to actually follow them into the forest and experience
the forest for yourself.

As for someone using my photos without payment - the one time that
happened I had a contract!  (Long story about how they kept stringing me
along on the payment.  Right now it's actually in my best interest to
keep them on the books as a dead-beat client as it helps keep them in
line with their underhanded business tricks.)  Everyone else has asked
for permission, and provides me with credit and links back to my site,
bringing me business.  I register my works with the copyright office so
if someone makes commercial use of my photos without my permission and
without their use being "fair use" then I have the ability to demand
payment more than they would have had to pay if they had approached me
for license rights in the first place.

The problem that old media has in this new digital age is that they
don't really understand fair use (as it applies to others using their
content - they are all too happy to make use of fair use when they want
to use content themselves), and they don't understand how to use the
various tools and services to their best advantage.  If you don't want
Google indexing your news, don't waste your time trying to sue Google,
just use robots.txt to stop Google from indexing your site, problem
solved (instantly)!  But when your traffic plummets because people can't
find your content when they search Google, don't be surprised.  You
can't get the traffic (from Google) without the indexing (by Google).
Blogging is the same thing - you can't get traffic from blogs without
blogs using (fair use) some of your content.  If their use exceeds fair
use (e.g. reproducing a substantial amount of your content), then tell
them to stop using more than "fair use" allows.  Excessive copying
(beyond that allowed with fair use) without license or permission is not
very common on the internet and cases where it caused serious financial
harm to the copyright owner are quite rare.  Being afraid of this to the
point that it paralyzes your ability to use the internet to your
advantage is self-defeating.

jc

And how do you KNOW when someone has used your work without
compensation or permission? Do you have time to search the whole web
on a daily basis?

My wife works for NFAIS--look it up. The whole fair use/copyright
issue is a major headache for her members. I know all about it. I also
know you can't prevent misappropriation on the web. I also know nobody
has come up with a workable business model for news gathering and
reporting on the web...including the model you present.

Because the model you present isn't for news gathering and reporting.
It's for pontificating and marketing.


Well, there are long reported pieces like this

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2009/05/the-future-of-i-1.php

that are done on a sort of personal National Geographic Society model.
I don't know how many such are supportable -- and the fact that admittedly
I have never contributed makes me somewhat sceptical, but apparently
enough people are.

Ted
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columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..
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