Re: Can There Be An A-List Marvel Female Superhero?
- From: Oberon <Ol3eron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:28:36 -0700
On Jun 22, 6:07 pm, David Johnston <d...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:53:18 GMT, coorslte <coors...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sue Richards......one of the more powerful people in the MU and over the
years has developed some character. Almost an Icon with the current movie.
Sue Richards? An icon? Personally I can't see it.
Oberon: Well, as you say, *personally*. But she and the FF are
ICONS. I don't usually like to tout Wikipedia as "a real info
source", since it's not mediated by information experts, generally,
but the entry on the FF has many footnotes where the FF, individually
and as a group come up in MANY popular "pop" references. Sitcoms,
movies, other media have all referenced the FF, and/or some of the
members individually. That's one way to tell iconic status -- it gets
translated to other media.
I also disagree with the person who doesn't see Wasp as A-list, if
only for the reason that Janet was one half of a marvel series that
"featured" her (and Antman), waaaaaaaay back in the '60s. Wasp was
Marvel 's first female character that was a major part of a series, in
Tales to Astonish. It was years before Ms.Marvel, She Hulk and
others got their own series. Now, albeit, she shared that with the
Ant guy, and it was actually 1/2 of the book, the other featured story
was another character, uummmm, I'm thinking Hulk?
But in general, the main premise suggests that Marvel has no Major
Iconic character like DC's Wonder Woman, and I would agree that Wasp,
Sue, even Storm and the others mentioned are not quite up to that
level of Iconicness.
Perhaps the reason WW is an icon is because her history goes back to
the Golden Age. I'm 51, been reading and collecting since age 12. My
mother read and collected WW in the '40s, and actually bought me a
subscription to WW when I was younger, I'm gonna say 8. WW has been
around much longer, has identification with the pre-boomer generation,
as well as the boomers and all since, more or less. I'm sure the '70s
TV series didn't hurt either.
But I would also agree with another poster who suggests that Phoenix
would/could be the "break-out" character, only if handled correctly,
and that is something that Marvel has problems with. The original
Spider Woman series lasted around 50 issues, I believe, which, not
shabby, is still far behind most of the DC female character books.
.
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