Re: Why saying there is no right or wrong side in Civil War is a lie --

"Aaron *Brother Head* Moss" <thebrother@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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This is the Dale Dribble attitude I do not understand. Licensing a
car, no problem. Marriage license, no problem. Licensing a gun,
somehow that's a problem.

I think the attitude is based on these facts; you really need the car
to survive so you'll accept this, if you want to get married and have
it recognized then you'll have to get registered. But the gun is
purely optional. So if you don't want to register it, you might not
get it. At least that's the people who complain about it would like
you ti think.

Isn't getting married optional? It was last two times I did it.

So is a car. Millions survive just fine without it.

Everyone is once again succumbing to their unquenchable thirst to argue and
contradict everyone else. The question isn't -- and never was -- whether
licenses are mandatory or optional. Like everything in life, some are
mandatory, some are optional. The REAL question is whether you should be
registering something that was thrust upon you.

My opinion, as is well-known by now (especially those who obsess over my
every word to borderline-religious extent) is that if what was thrust upon
you can harm the people around you, then the proper authorities need to know
about it.

Skin color doesn't represent anykind of threat to your neighbors. Neither
does your religion or spiritual beliefs. However, being able to go nova,
*does*.

The other side has argued that people who can light up like matches and go
nova shouldn't be forced to reveal their identity (and power) to Uncle Sam
because they have it under control. That we should trust all masked
superheroes to always be in control, always know right from wrong, and
always do everything they can do make sure their neighbors never come into
harm's way.

What about the alcoholic superheroes, like Warbird/Iron Man? We're also
trusting /them/ to never slip up, aren't we?

What about mind control? Superheroes are walking weapons whose minds can be
taken over on any given day by any number of supervillains. Unlike Joe
Shmoe, the destructive potential of Johnny Storm or Iron Man is
considerable, and worth keeping tabs on.

Sure, some of them never asked to become heroes. Sure, for most of them, the
powers were thrust upon them. Yes, that means being monitored a bit more
closely than the average homeless man in the streets living in cardboard
boxes without a dime to his name. The question Civil War raises, in this
post-911 era, is : Given the choice between a loss of privacy or a loss of
protection, which do you choose?

Can't have both. Can't have masked vigilantes with awesome destructive power
overriding municipal and national authorities. Either they work WITH the
system, or they are outlawed.

So which is it? Privacy or safety?

THAT, at the end of the day, is the issue.

Anyone arguing that they ought to just let the thousands of anonymous
vigilantes continue what they've been doing all this time is incredibly
naive. There is no way that sort of thing would be permitted to happen in
ANY half-realistic universe.

"But we don't WANT a realistic universe in our comics! We want escapism!"

BULL FUCKING ***. All of you, exceptions notwithstanding, spend hours a day
in this and other forums arguing with one another over the smallest,
trivialest detail of Bendis or JMS' writing... Wolverine shouldn't have
gotten his ass kicked so fast... that his brain should have splattered when
he fell from that height... that only an idiot would write a scene with Aunt
May and Mary Jane in armor travelling to the past... that one thing
contradicts another... that these powers don't make sense in this context...
that such and such a thing is completely unrealistic and insults our
intelligence... etc, etc.

You want escapism, but you want it to be REALISTIC. Well, we've got your
realistic escapism RIGHT HERE IN CIVIL WAR. And I, for one, applaud the
effort, whether the product ends up sucking or not.

Jon
--
Jon: "Please go away."
JLB: "No, I started this thread. You're the one
who should leave."


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