Re: - My beef with Joey Q. regarding She Hulk #100

"Agnos" <agnos@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jon J. Yeager wrote:
>> "Agnos" <agnos@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>
>>>I know that things get heated between you and Steven and other frequent
>>>posters here, and things do degenerate quickly, but it would be nice and
>>>much more constructive if things stayed on a more level headed
>>>discussion.
>>
>> Go back on all the posts in this thread and tell me how many level-headed
>> posts you've read from ANY of the parties involved. And that post Ron
>> replied to that wasn't addressed to him - go see who it WAS addressed to,
>> and if that language WAS warranted in that situation.
>
> I apologize in advance, but I replied to this particular exchange because
> this
> was how thunderbird was sorting this discussion - by reply - i.e. your
> original
> post, a reply to it, replies to the reply, then on to the next reply to
> your original post. > I went down item by item: there was a particular
> exchange where Stephen said
> something to the effect that someone should change your diaper

A classic usenet moment, wasn't it?

> Moreover, I had not seen, a few replies after, ron's own reference to
> masturbation, where, considering his objection a few replies before, seems
> very contradictory.

Hypocrisy is a very hard word to type. So for me to use it as frequently as
I do, you know I'm not typing it for no reason. :-)

> I'm specifically NOT singling you out, but replying in this particular
> thread
> because you seem like a sensible person.

Huh? Whatever gave you THAT ridiculous idea?

Actually, it's nice that at least 1 person here can take a moment to see
where the train tends to derail from the tracks, and that I am seldom (if
ever) the one derailing it. I will acknowledge, however, that once derailed,
I take great pleasure in embarrassing and humiliating the hypocrits that
caused it to derail in the first place.

My own little superhero complex at work 'n all. ;-)

> However, I don't think I'm making a "federal issue" out of your opinion in
> the
> numbering matter. Just as you rejected such allegations against yourself,
> I
> would kindly request that you refrain from accusing me from doing the
> same.

My behavior fills me with shame.

> BTW, what exactly is "making a federal issue" supposed to be mean?

Not sure, but I think it involves 3 paperclips, a chair, and a bottle of
champagne.

> Is it blowing things way out of proportion?

That's precisely what it means. Which makes the reactions from the virgins
that followed all the funnier, doesn't it?

> I find offensive language objectionable coming from anyone, specially when
> we're trying to have discussions, which is the whole point of this group.
> Again, I'm not singling you out, and if my previous post seemed to
> indicate as
> much, I apologize. However, I refuse to apologize for pointing out that
> in an
> adult discussion, one should not stoop to making personal attacks and
> obscenities.

Fight the power, Agnos!

> You, specially, seem to be a very rational guy,

Hogwash!

> and I gladly exchange views with you, and yes, we have not agreed much,

I'm from Quebec. We don't agree with anyone about anything. Nothing
personal.

> but I hope that I have always treated your, and everyone else's, opinion
> fairly.
> I suggest to everyone to keep things at an adult level and have fun.

No offense (and I mean this literally, not just as a throwaway comment) but
with the number of fanboys in here looking for a fight, it's hard to keep
track of who was polite with whom and when. Ideally, we WOULD keep better
track of such things.

I mean, I know Wiacek's a good guy because he made me retype his name 100
times until I got it right. So's Nathan. Astrobiochemist is Scott Dubin's
attempt at redemption so it wouldn't make sense for him to lose it like he
usually does under that name. So it's pretty safe to bet that any discussion
with those guys won't degenerate. Even with me. Proof that I am just a
mirror reflecting what's thrown at me (except I throw it back twice as
hard). Then you've got Dubin, Hill and Fallen who are all cut from the same
"non-conceding / must absolutely disagree with everything" cloth, so
personal insults and things going ugly are pretty much guaranteed with ANY
interaction with them. Then there's Henderson who made sure I'll never
forget his name by going on and on and on about how he killfiled me while
replying directly to my posts. I didn't get it either.

Then there's the creators... we chased Brevoort off the newsgroup during
Disassembled by simply asking him WTF this load of crap was (it's all
Googlable and pretty funny). Fabian is a big sweetheart who may be too
sensitive for places like this, while Kurt represents everything both good
and bad about the average usenet poster (see discussion about Stark's
moustache and how he contributed to half the posts therein while condemning
the relevance of such a thread). Dan Slott? I had no idea he was even here,
but he seems to have the same healthy sense of humor here as he does in his
(great) books.

The rest? I see names come and go but generall it's one bit cluster*** of
aliases who will disagree with me about anything, always be the first to
throw the first personal insult, and run away when confronted with
irrefutable evidence (see the guy who thought Wolverine's mask was shaped
that way to account for the hairstyle underneath, then completely
disappeared from the thread when a screenshot was sent to him).

If you were thrown into that last group, I apologize. It takes me a while to
remember names and associations. But this is one big schoolyard and when 90%
of people are here only to disagree with and insult one another, some really
good people get hit with shrapnel.

> Again, in my previous post I said "This is a clear indication that you are
> a
> rational guy, so keeping your arguments reasonable would keep the whole
> discussion more interesting and fun for all of us to follow. Someone
> posts an
> annoying/aggravating post? Ignore it."

Where would the fun in THAT be, though? :-S

Jon
--
"So THIS is what having a groupie feels like.
Now I know what it's like to be Bendis working
for Quesada.."
- Jon to Stephen Bayer (12-13-05)


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