Re: I Want My Heroes To Be A Little More... Heroic
- From: Lilith <lilith@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:54:56 -0500
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:42:43 -0700 (PDT), Anlatt the Builder
<tirhuan@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:38 pm, "YKW (ad hoc)" <Decis...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Anlatt the Builder <tirh...@xxxxxxx> wrote in news:4c885a13-1bff-4a33-
beaf-cb04bdb9c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
spoiler space for latest Green Arrow & Black Canary, latest JLA, and
latest Superman stuff....
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I'd prefer that Green Arrow didn't actually torture people to get
information, like when he sunk an arrow into Count Vertigo's thigh
(while Vertigo was doing nothing illegal or dangerous) to find out
where Merlyn was. Which Vertigo didn't even know.
I've argued this before: Since Denny O'Neill and Mike Grell reimagined
him, he's been =exactly= this kind of jerk. He's killed gratuitously.
He's tortured for information. He's tortured just to establish that he
=would= torture. Totally in character for him -- at least, for the
character we've been reading about for nearly forty years.
Then Superman, Batman, and the Black Canary shouldn't be putting up
with him for a minute. They should be putting him in jail. If he's
being written in character, then the people around him are not being
written in character.
I'd also prefer that Black Canary wouldn't react to feeling
"unsupported by her husband" but actually punching Green Arrow in the
mouth. This was not a love tap or a meaningful poke. It was a full-
out, knock-him-over punch. (Imagine if, feeling emotionally
unsupported, Ollie punched Dinah in the mouth. Oh, yeah, that'd fly!)
Ouch. I quit the book when Kreisberg came onboard, so I'd missed that.
I'm a longtime Dinah fan so I'm hoping the rest of the world ignores that
but, hey, if there's any justice, it'll become her Hank Pym moment. More
likely, though, it becomes her Peter-throws-pregnant-MJ-against-a-wall
moment.
It was treated as funny. Hal was there - thought it was cute. It
wasn't.
What I'm not finding funny is that this must be the 12th death of the
JLA. How many times does the JLA have to be re-organized, re-hashed,
juggled, spun-off, negatized, sanatized, vilified, vinylized,
traumatized, digitized, parodied, criticized, revitalized, raised up,
put down, scrambled, minced and diced?
Personally, after all these years, I think I'm finally getting tired
of comics. I feel it's really possible to present a stable
environment yet still write viable stories. If I were a super-hero in
today's comics I think I'd be about ready to tell the world to screw
itself and then find a nice job for my secret identity and settle down
into a normal life.
--
Lilith
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