Re: Really Final Crisis
- From: Duggy <Paul.Duggan@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:54:18 -0700
On Jun 6, 12:03 pm, masonReloaded <jonmason1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Er, no... I think you dont see my point clearly...
No, I see you point perfectly. You're talking about a soft-reboot.
As a reply to a subthread about a hard-reboot. You have missed the
point of the thread.
If you're creating an unseen history for the Flash and not forWhy does that mess up a reboot???
Superman, Batman, etc, then the reboot is already messed up.
A reboot does not have to mean -
"no events in these character's lives before Day One ever happened and
they are the only superheroes ever to have existed"
It does in the context of Dan Ewan saying: "Er, like CoIE which was
supposed to be a brand new Earth starting over from scratch."
To which I replied in that context saying Superman, etc would be fine,
but starting the DCU from scratch make the then current Flash (Wally
West) the first.
And you chirped in about soft reboots... which, frankly, is not the
topic at hand.
You missed the point.
I'm not saying
keep Jay/Barry's comic adventures as canon, I'm saying you can have
equivalent characters existing in the new universe and reference the
characters without it messing up continuity:
Not when you are starting the universe from scratch.
For example, lets imagine a standalone JLA :Reboot issue one as the
first title in the new universe:
Superman - he was sent here from Krypton as a child, referencing
Krypton doesnt mess up continuity, it existed in the past.
Batman - his parents were murdered when he was a child.
Flash - a former apprentice to the previous Flash, he is the third man
to don the Flash costume.
So Superman, Batman & Wally debut at the same time, years after
Flashes have been running around for years.
That isn't starting from scratch. Sure, every story starts with an
untold past, but an untold Superhero past, especially one relating to
one of the characters is not starting from scratch. It is not a hard
reboot.
It is a soft reboot, and a really badly done one at that.
Who is helped by Wally West (Flash III) being proceeded by Trevor
Smith (Flash II) and Jeff West (Flash I). Not existing fans. Not new
fans. No one.
It would just be part of his general backstory, much as GL can be one
of 1000s of GLs in the universe, Wally West can be the third
Flash... you can reference it in later adventures, or even flash
back, as we might to the days of Krypton or to Bruce's childhood, or
Captain America's WW2 adventures - it doesnt encumber continuity...
Yes. It does.
Tried half-heartedly and then gave up... try it again. and stick
with it - I guarantee you that were DC to do an "ultimate" universe,
they would outsell the regular books.
A side universe isn't a reboot. It is a side universe.
And I've been talking about a Argent Universe long before there was an
Ulimate Universe.
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