Re: Grant Morrison comments on Frank Miller

"Shaun" <sknavis1701@xxxxxxx> wrote in
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Denny Colt wrote:
Does this mean GM doesn't like Marvel Comics? Cause they got
their start as Timely with superheroes beating up Nazis. At
a time when real people were being killed in the real world.

Which is of course what FM cited as his reason for doing this.
Despite the exceedingly shitty All-Star B&R, I'm keeping an
open mind about anything I haven't read yet (or at least read a
reliable review of).

Sorry about the previous post that had nothing new (I hit the
wrong button). Miller can talk all he wants about this being
some kind of time-honored tradition based on the comics of WWII,
but those were such different times. I wasn't around then, but I
think it was a time when pretty much the whole world, aside from
the Axis nations, were united against a common foe and we
clearly knew he the enemies were.

Timely showed Captain America punching out Hitler on the cover of
Captain America #1, March, 1941. At that time, the US had a large
and vocal isolationist movement, France was a recently-defeated
German client state, the USSR was allied with Germany, and no one
was officially fighting Japan except the Chinese (who had been
invaded, and didn't really have much choice). That global unity and
clarity on who the enemy was came rather later. It's also easy to
exaggerate in retrospect, because there was fairly heavy pressure on
the press and other media even in the democracies to discourage the
publication of anything that smacked of defeatism or aid and comfort
to the enemy once war was declared.

Before that, most entertainers treaded fairly lightly-- Timely was
the exception. When National wanted to hint at international
tensions it introduced fake countries like "Deucalia" and "Napkan"
lest they alienate readers. (Much like the last few decades' Quracs
and Bialyas and generic terror groups.)

(I'm not inclined to debate current politics on a comics newsgroup,
but past conflicts generally only look simple at a distance.)

Mike

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Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS
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