Re: Ethandune and Andunie

Larry Swain wrote:
Belba Grubb wrote:

Tux Wonder-Dog wrote:


Can't call myself a scholar, more of a dabbler, but Sweet's Anglo-Saxon
Reader,pg 391,
west av, westwards, west [...], in the west [...].
westan av, from the west [...] be ~ west of [...].

And besides the same word got adopted by French from Old Franconian, and by
Spanish, Portuguese, and Catalan from Visigothic, so the use of "andune" to
mean "west" is Tolkien's work, and solely his alone.



Ah! So we got "west" from the A-S!!!

Very well.

Unfortunately the Oxford Word and Language Service does not accept
online queries, but I may just write them about this. In the meantime,
does anyone know the derivation and meanings of "Ethandune."

Barb

Sorry to delay responding, I only had time for a "Beatles" response yesterday and probably only for this one today. I'm going off the top of my head, so someone (or I will in the next day or so) should check: but I believe Ethandune comes form ethan, a verb to mean overwhelm, lay waste and dun, hill or mound.

The directional names, west, north, east, south are all of Germanic origin. We didn't "get them" from anywhere so much as they are part of our native word stock. More later.

I should have added that we see "dun" in this sense in LoTR with Dunharrow and Dunlander...
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