Re: Sci-Fi Noein - "Shrodinger's Sand Box"

In article <16nkelci3aqy3$.18k5gaeaqod14$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Phil Yff <Phil.Yff@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:08:09 -0700, Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
In the dub she's talking about alternate sand particles, yet
they're clearly showing the Shrodinger's Cat theory; seems like a
scream to those who know better to buy the DVD box set

Yeah, I didn't get it. That definitely was the Shrodinger's Cat example.
I don't see why the dubbers wrote about something else entirely.

"Noein" is very difficult to translate. It requires more than proficiency
in English and Japanese but a grasp of scientific terminology in both
English and Japanese. Although it's a little out of date - 1973, I have a
bachelor's degree in physics, specializing in particle theory, relativity,
and quantum mechanics. Even so, for the later episodes, I spent more time
looking up words in the dictionary than I did watching the show.

Could someone type up a transcript of that scientist's explanation? She
went by so fast I couldn't follow her very well. I suspect that she was making
the physics sound more complicated than it really was.

She was referring to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle: the position
and the momentum of an object CANNOT be measured exactly simultaneously. The
more accurately you measure a position, the LESS accurately you can measure the
momentum. So, yes, our positions in space have some uncertainty, which was
freaking her partner out. But the momentums humans experience are so large
that the position uncertainty is very small.

You describe particles using Probability functions, a function related to
how likely the particle is at a certain point in space. These functions have
to solve Schrodinger's Equation. So, yes, to fundamentally describe you or I,
we would need a complicated set of probability functions for our particles.

They've been talking about the multiverse theory. In our lives we make a
lot of choices. Supposedly for every choice we make, every different direction
of the timeline, a universe following that timeline exists. I've heard that
idea floated around in real life, but I don't know how seriously physicists
take it, or even if anyone takes that theory seriously anymore. If no contact
with these alternate probability universes is possible, then the theory cannot
be tested, and so would then seem useless.

Hmm. I hope I was clearer than that lady scientist.

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Moving onto the scifi part, that scientist seemed to be implying that
those guys from the other dimension are somehow making their position
probability very uncertain and then making the probability very high in the
dimension they want to reach. This dimension appears to be different from the
other dimension only by some trivia choices: like maybe that guy rolled a 2
instead of a 4 in the other dimension and everything else is the same. I don't
know, though, what would exactly cause all these dimensions to get destroyed.

dub in the translation of technical concepts. They'd need a scientific
adviser in order to get them right. Moreover, if they'd made use of a

The "Noein" makers earn my respect in making a concerted effort to apply
as much real quantum physics into their sci-fi premise. If they could get
their science ideas through more clearly I'd find the premise more involving.

Oh well. Even if either they mess up the science, or they can't explain
the quantun physics well enough for the audience to understand, "Noein" can
still be enjoyed on the level of fanservice of Haruka, a totally hot loli. :-)

- Juan F. Lara
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