Re: (Somewhat OT) Bittorrent clients

Justin wrote:
SpaceGirl wrote on [Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:20:37 +0100]:
Justin wrote:
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote on [4 Apr 2007 18:27:43 GMT]:
Justin <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SpaceGirl wrote on [Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:14:19 +0100]:
Justin wrote:
The far greater portion of Macs selling are the iMac, mini and
notebooks.
Yes and those who buy them wont have to worry about drivers,
installing software, cleaning out registries, antivirus, firewalls,
service packs... ever.
You never have to install software on a Mac? Really?
Take an actual look at how software installation on a Mac usually works:
you take the application bundle and drag it to wherever you want it to
be. Software installed.

Yes, there are exceptions, but not that much.
It's still an installation.
Copying files into a folder is an installation? Every time you save a document you are installing it then...

If it's an executable document then sure.

I wouldn't be so hasty to claim no need for antivirus or firewalls.
It's only common sense to use a firewall, no matter the OS.
Not really. As long as a host doesn't expose any services there's no
real need for a firewall.
Oh, as long as you're not connected to any kind of network you don't
need one either.
Should really use a hardware one anyway.

Firewalls are all software.

No, the Mac Equivalent to a service pack is an OSX point release.
Rubbish.

MS release Service Packs that rarely have anything new in them (SP2 being the one exception to date). The point releases in OSX always MAJOR new functionality. This next release has a new Finder, Spaces, History, new file system... the list goes on.

And MS releases the extra applications for free after the service packs.
Defender, shell, etc.

I recently had it happen on a brand new mini, right out of the box.
While running updates for the first time.
Unlucky.

Yes, but I thought Macs were perfect.

I also don't like wasting resources to run a GUI that just isn't needed
to run a web server, database server, file server, application server,
etc.
The UI takes almost no resource under Windows 2003.

Only 30% overhead or so.

It only uses resource if you're signed into the desktop, and then, what's a few MB RAM these days?

Are you sure about that. By signed in do you mean locked as well?


Also, by going Windows, I have a much wider range of technologies to call on. Our live servers run ASP.NET, PHP, Perl, Ruby and J2EE. Oh and Flex. They work great :) Far easier to configure than Apache, that's for sure.

Apache is simple and easy to setup, even with PHP, perl, Ruby, J2EE via
whatever APPserver you want.

Running these applications on Windows is far from optimal.

I think, before this thread consumes the forum we should stop. Clearly we will not see eye to eye :)

Can we talk about Anime again?


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