Re: (Somewhat OT) Bittorrent clients

Justin wrote:
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote on [4 Apr 2007 18:27:43 GMT]:
Justin <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
SpaceGirl wrote on [Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:14:19 +0100]:
Justin wrote:
The far greater portion of Macs selling are the iMac, mini and
notebooks.
Yes and those who buy them wont have to worry about drivers,
installing software, cleaning out registries, antivirus, firewalls,
service packs... ever.
You never have to install software on a Mac? Really?
Take an actual look at how software installation on a Mac usually works:
you take the application bundle and drag it to wherever you want it to
be. Software installed.

Yes, there are exceptions, but not that much.

It's still an installation.

Copying files into a folder is an installation? Every time you save a document you are installing it then...



I wouldn't be so hasty to claim no need for antivirus or firewalls.
It's only common sense to use a firewall, no matter the OS.
Not really. As long as a host doesn't expose any services there's no
real need for a firewall.

Oh, as long as you're not connected to any kind of network you don't
need one either.

Should really use a hardware one anyway.


Remote exploits began on UNIX systems, like the Mac is based on. The
Mac runs plenty of services that have been exploited at one time or
another from the open source community. Samba, Apache, ssh, ftp,
plenty more.
None of those are enabled by default on OS X. Besides, no firewall can
protect the services you provide willingly to the outside world.

Putting a step where services need to deliberately be enabled is handy.
I know through curiosity I enable services on my machines that are
inside my firewall to see how they work. If there was no firewall this
would be a more dangerous thing to do.

[...]
BTW, Mac Service packs come out every year or so and cost about $150.
Huh? No, they don't. The Mac-equivalent to a Service Pack is called
"Combo Update". They come out rather frequently, and are availabel
through the normal update mechanism.

No, the Mac Equivalent to a service pack is an OSX point release.

Rubbish.

MS release Service Packs that rarely have anything new in them (SP2 being the one exception to date). The point releases in OSX always MAJOR new functionality. This next release has a new Finder, Spaces, History, new file system... the list goes on.

I'm sure you can. But being Windows, it won't be as reliable as a
Mac. And you can forget Linux for graphics and animation (at least,
at our level... we don't have a rendering far, or need one).
That's funny, my friends and coworkers who use Macs have lockups,
crashes, application errors, etc. all the time.
Well, not all the time, but it sure does happen.

I recently had it happen on a brand new mini, right out of the box.
While running updates for the first time.

Unlucky.

I also don't like wasting resources to run a GUI that just isn't needed
to run a web server, database server, file server, application server,
etc.

The UI takes almost no resource under Windows 2003. It only uses resource if you're signed into the desktop, and then, what's a few MB RAM these days? Also, by going Windows, I have a much wider range of technologies to call on. Our live servers run ASP.NET, PHP, Perl, Ruby and J2EE. Oh and Flex. They work great :) Far easier to configure than Apache, that's for sure.


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