Re: Become an Otaku, prevent war!

On Tue, 16 May 2006 23:24:43 -0700, "Phyrie"
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On Mon, 15 May 2006 12:42:49 -0400, Invid Fan wrote:

It is not just in Japan that the phenomenon is spreading. Across the
developed world, sex-starved men are not rising in rebellion or
demanding guns and uniforms but dociley retreating to lives defined by
their jobs and their computer screens.
It is time that we start paying attention to these pallid, sad,
voluntary isolates, if only as the leading edge of an important
worldwide trend."

I resemble that remark. :'(


Browsing CNN, came across a somewhat related news bit -

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/15/ireland.lonely.reut/index.html

Two most relevant bits from it for this discussion:

Google Trends, which works out how many searches have been done via the
Internet search engine on particular terms, showed the word "lonely" was
entered most frequently by Internet users in Ireland.
...Singaporeans are the most frequent searchers of "happiness."

This got me thinking about my own "Googling" trends. I think it might
tell
WAAY too much about us if we had to share all that we searched for most
often. For the record, after "recipes", mine would most likely be
"computer
crashes" or "laptop crashes". The last was "laptop shuts self off for no
reason". Goddamn Toshiba!


Woo hoo. Another Toshiba owner. I've repaired and serviced plenty of
these, and the most common cause of unintended shutdown I've seen is
overheating caused by a blocked cooling systems. I really love the
machines, (I'm a mostly happy five time owner) but they don't work
well with out regular maintenance.

Some tips:

- Do not operate the unit in a dusty environment. Dust will quickly
clog the heatsink or airpaths.

- Do not use the unit on your lap. If you want to sit with it on your
lap, purchase a tray of some sort so the air vents are not
inadvertantly blocked by your clothing.

- If the rubber feet used to elevate the notebook have fallen off,
replace them. The genuine toshiba parts are hideously expensive at
almsot $10 a piece. I suggest you go down to the dollar store or home
depot and pick up some cheap generic rubber or felt bottomed feet, and
use those. Cost shouldn't be more than $1 for a lifetime supply.

- If you can see dust in the vents, you have too much dust in the
system. Purchase a can of compressed air, (or if you're lucky enough
to own an airbrush, it will do the job just as well.) and find a
paperclip. Unbend the paperclip and use it to prevent the fan from
spinning while you use the compressed air to blow all the dust out of
your cooling system. (It probably doesn't need to be said, but do
this OUTSIDE, and turn the computer OFF before doing it.)

If you let me know what model you have, I'll see if I can dig up the
"official" cleaning procedures, but the previous instructions should
serve you fine if you treat the unit carefully.

Thanks for the advice. I am fairly certain that you are correct...it's
dust. Unfortunately I live on a limestone island

<Haruhi>
Moving right along, have any straange incidents happened in this
manor? And does this island have any ominous nicknames or terrifying
legends?
</Haruhi>

at the end of a limestone dust lane.

**COUGH**

I also use the computer as my main machine, so it's on all the
time, which I'm sure must help it get hot. My Toshiba Satellite P-30 JC-100

Oh MY. Well, this isn't for the faint of heart, but if you're
competant to install equpiment in a tower, there's no reason you can't
service your own notebook.

http://www.laptopka.com/2006/04/28/clean-heatsink-fix-overheat/

More tips:

- When disassembling a notebook/laptop, a digital camera is your best
friend. Take a shot before you remove screws or parts, so you can
refer back to them if you can't remember where things go.

- Do this on a big table. Preferably one with a white tablecloth, so
you can see the little screws if they get away from you.

- Purchase one or two small multi-compartment boxes. Label the
compartments starting from 1. Put the screws/parts you remove in the
compartments in order. When you go to re-assemble the unit, you can
simply follow your trail of parts back in reverse order. Small ziploc
bags work for this purpose too, but I prefer the boxes.

- If you don't already have a good set of miniature screw drivers,
purchase a GOOD set. This is the one tool you don't want to purchase
from the dollar store. A stripped desktop screw can be replaced
easily. A stripped notebook screw is expensive.

- Blue Loctite is your friend. You absolutely do not want a screw
backing out inside a notebook. Again available at any hardware store,
use it on every screw as you re-assemble the unit. DO NOT use the RED
loctite; the red stuff is permanent, and requires heat to facilitate
removal.

- While you've got the heatsinks out to clean them, consider
replacing the thermal grease with one of a higher quality. I got a 3
degree difference going from the stock Toshiba stuff to "Artic
Silver".
is already on lifters that keeps the back of it about two inches off the
table. It slopes down in front for typing. I have blown out the vents, but
didn't think to stop the fans spinning.

It's not strictly necessary, but a spinning fan can produce voltage,
and backfeed into the motherboard. Also, often the speeds that a fan
reaches when moved by canned air, are well above rated spec, and can
damage the fan.

There was quite a lot of dust billowing out!

That's why I said do it outside! You'd be surprised how many people
don't think about this.

I read on some website that if you're having troubles like
this, you'll most likely have to dismantle the computer and clean the heat
sink. I took the little bay doors off today, but I didn't see a heat sink,
and I'm too nervous to mess about in there much. If it was one of my
desktop computers I'd just take the thing outside and blow it out with the
vacuum! I also know how to access all the parts in the towers, since I
helped put a lot of them in there! I didn't realize when I bought the
laptop that I wouldn't be able to do my own simple maintenance.

Aah. Well, if you're stil in warranty, take it to your local service
center. They should do it for free.

If you're out of warranty, DON'T FEAR THE MACHINE. Go ahead and crack
it open. If you work carefully, methodically, and follow the tips
I've labeled above, there's really no need to fear a notebook.

(Oh, and it probably goes without saying, I should say I take no
responsibility if you slip with the screwdriver and stab your
motherboard to death, or otherwise manage to kill your notebook)

:-)

--
"Oh no! look over there! How did a Chupacabra get into the house? Quick!
Hide all the goats!" - Lisa, Girl's Bravo, English Dub
Abraham Evangelista
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