Re: FMA 42 - His Name is Unknown
- From: "elsie" <lcubbison@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:05:00 GMT
"Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> elsie wrote:
>
>> "Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> elsie wrote:
>>>
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>> I think the episode has been coming on a minute early.
>
> Ok. Well, hopefully, setting my TiVo early will help. If it doesn't get
> wait all this week, I'll set it ANOTHER minute early and TiVo the later
> showing.
> It's weird, at one point I did have it set early, then I changed it cuz it
> was conflicting with another show... What was on right before FMA for
> awhile? _InuYasha_?
>
Yes. Now it's Stroker and Hoop I think, which I refuse to watch.
>>> Poor Al...
>>> My only regret is that Kimbley doesn't live long enough to see
>>> Scar save Al.. It would've been great if he'd gone to his grave
>>> knowing Al was safe. d-:
>>
>> Survival is the best revenge.
>
> Indeed. MUAHAHA!
Well, it's true.
>
>>>> Scar walks over to him and kneels beside him. "Stay still,
>>>> Alphonse Elric. I'm not sure what's happening with your body,
>>>> but we don't want to make it any worse. Just try not to exert
>>>> yourself."
>>>
>>> Awww... This is the same guy who once nearly destroyed him too. The
>>> changes the characters go through in this show is great.
>>>
>> Yes, they've come a long way together, and it has really been Al's
>> sweet nature that has had an effect on Scar.
>
> How could you be around Al for very long and not be effected? Awwww...
> <hugs him>
>
Exactly. I mean we see the effect that being around Al had on Scar, Lust,
Marta, even Greed. Of course, three of the four are also dead. But we won't
think about that.
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> Indeed. FMA is the only show where I don't even bother with the JP track
> on the DVDs... Even with other shows where I enjoy the dub, I switch back
> and forth, but with FMA... <shrug>
> BTW, in his commentary on an episodes on the DVDs (are you getting them,
> or planning to?), Aaron Dismuke said he thought Scar was "cool". Hehe...
>
Are you kidding? Can you seriously ask me if I'm buying the dvds? What kind
of addict do you think I am?
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>>> BTW, Ed looks HOT in that scene...
>>>
>> Hell, yeah!
>
> Hot, angsty jailbait...
Best kind of jailbait.....
>
>>>> A man with glasses and a pony tail stands in front of the
>>>> burnt-out Elric home. Mustang sits in a dark room, a shot
>>>> of whiskey in his hand.
>>>
>>> And a picture of him and Hughes on his desk.
>>>
>> The viewer must not be allowed to forget Hughes. Seriously.
>
> Yeah... )-:
> We also see him in the ED.
> I wonder if we'll see Gracia and/or Elicia again?
>
Probably. Roy needs some more angst.
>>>> Ed leaps off a cliff
>>>
>>> "OH, GOD, MY LEGS!!"
>>> <seriously, that's quite a leap there...>
>>>
>> Yeah, he must have good shock absorbers in that automail.
>
> Heh... Well, then there's his real leg...
>
Which would shatter with a drop like that.
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>>>> Ed turns to face the camera, before he and Al turn their backs to
>>>> walk along the railroad tracks.
>>>
>> And I was thinking about that. Having walked along railroad tracks
>> near my grandparents as a child, it's not easy to do, because it
>> messes with your stride.
>
> I've never done that, but I can see why that would be the case.
> BTW, the other OP they aired had the brothers on railroad tracks, too
> (running, in that case).
It was always more fun to walk the rail and pretend you were on a balance
beam than to try to walk the ties.
> Speaking of, there's two things from that OP that are interesting...
> First, a scene about 35 second in, Ed and Al are running along, and Ed
> trips... I suppose you could argue it's supposed to be all symbolic of
> his failures and mistakes and blah blah.. I just think it's funny... ^_^
> Then, near the end (and about 1:24) we get quick flashes of Ed with a
> pained expression and his hands over his ears... It's really quick, but
> very interesting.
>
There's another point in the Ready Steady Go opening where he looks like
he's about to throw up.
>>>> (and it took me 42 minutes to recap 2 minutes of the show. I'm
>>>> stopping for lunch.)
>>>
>>> O_O Yikes.
>>>
>> It takes a *long* time to do these. Really all Sunday afternoon.
>
> Awww...
> Well, I really like them, so I hope you can bear to do it for a little
> longer, till the show is over. ^_^
>
I can't keep myself from it. My Sundays are committed to this enterprise.
>>>> "Now, now, that's enough, Ed," Sloth says behind them. "Come
>>>> here. Give mom a hug, my prince of cool."
>>>
>>> O_O I'm sorry, her what of WHAT?!
>>>
>> Yeah, she should have said what you just said instead of that weird
>> line.
>
> She should have said, "My what of what"?
>
No -- " Now, boys, if you can't play nice with your toys, I'm going to take
them away!"
>>>> Ed looks over his shoulder at her. He stands up and walks toward
>>>> her. "It's been haunting me for a while now. Your appearance... so
>>>> much like her.... Still, I tried as hard as I could not to think
>>>> about it and to face the truth... what we made on that night....
>>>> we created you."
>>>
>>> You sure did.
>>>
>> At least he finally gets over the denial.
>
> <ring, ring>
> "Hello, Edward Elric? This is reality calling. WAKE UP!"
> <click>
>
LOL
>>>> She transforms her arms into water and whips them at him. He
>>>> slashes them out of their shape as Rose gasps. "So it's true what
>>>> you are," Ed says. "Our sin and our burden to bear!" He slashes
>>>> her into gushing water. She reformulates herself in her true form,
>>>> the ouroboros on her left breast.
>>>
>>> Both the female homunculi have their ouroboros on their... chests...
>> Multiple associations with the breast? Breast as maternal object,
>> breast as sexual object?
>
> Oh, I hadn't thought of the maternal thing. Though in Lust's case, it
> doesn't seem too relevant. In Sloth's, yeah.
>
Well, in Lust's case it's breast as sexual object.
>>>> "Clearly, you're with them," Ed says.
>>>
>>> Wait till you find out who else is, Ed...
>>>
>> Yeah, that's right.
>
> I hope Al tells him soon.
> In fact, Ed and Al need to have a nice LOOONG talk right about now...
>
They sure do.
>>> Why is Wrath so protective of Sloth, I wonder? Does he see her
>>> as a mother figure?
>>
>> I think so. Wrath is the child rejected by the mother who brought
>> him back. Sloth is the mother rejected by the children who brought
>> her back. There's a tie there.
>
> Oooh... true.
> Plus, there's Wrath as the male child of the female teacher, and Sloth as
> the female parent of the male students... There are all sorts of
> interesting parallels between those two sins and the people who created
> them.
>
Yes, it's all very metaphorical.
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>>>
>>> Yeah.. She actually seems concerned.
>>> Seriously, it's like it's "Everyone Be Nice To Al" day...
>>>
>> Yeah, but he's still having a Very Bad Day.
>
> True.
> Though with the Elrics, "Very Bad Days" are pretty relative...
>
Oh, I think this would be up there on Al's list. Being a bomb and all....
>>>> He tucks the locket around the belt of Al's loincloth
>>>
>>> Al: "Oh, now you, too? Sheesh... perverts."
>>>
>> :-)
>
> Ed's gonna get upset... Al's getting more action than he is!
>
LOL
>>>> The design then glows red on Al's body, before turning black. Blood
>>>> drips from the stump of Scar's arm.
>>>
>>> So now Scar's completely unarmed!
>>>
>> Disarmed?
>
> That works, too. ^_^
> "It's just a flesh wound!"
>
I'm laughing again. You're on a roll tonight.
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>>>> He orders the troops into
>>>
>>> ...their doom...
>>>
>> All because he wanted to be a military hero.
>
> Well, maybe he'll be seen as one posthumously...?
>
>> And when it comes down to it, he was being led to his doom
>> by the Fuhrer too.
>
> There's a shocker...
>
So what's Mustang going to do about the tragedy of Lior?
>>>> The relationship these two develop over the course of this
>>>> episode is so incredible.
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>> It's too bad he dies because you can really feel the sexual tension
>> between them, even if he keeps saying, "you're not the woman I
>> loved."
>
> True.
>
I just got the feeling in the middle there of two adults connecting on a
real level. And then he went off and died.
>>>> "That's true," Lust says. And you can see that both of them
>>>> admire and are fond of the Elrics for their own reasons.
>>>
>>> Indeed... I actually like Lust now... ^_^
>>>
>> Remember how long she's been observing the Elrics, as long ago as the
>> stopover in Majhal's village.
>
> That's a good point.
>
>>>> Scar gets up, leaving a blood stain on the wall.
>>>
>>> No kidding.. Ewww...
>>>
>> It's amazing he hung on as long as he did.
>
> Anime people have a lot more blood than us normal people. ^_^
>
True. True.
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>
> The problem with a guy like Kimbley: Yeah, sure for someone willing to
> kill a lot of people for their goal, he's a boon; he'll do the job for
> you. But its kinda hard to stop him when you want him to (like in "The
> Scar"). What you need is a psycho killer that you can control...
>
And *that's* a contradiction in terms!
>> I also have always wondered how Kimbley got that title.
>
> I do NOT wanna know... d-:
>
That can't be good.
>>>> Ed grabs Archer by the lapel. "You can pretend it's beyond
>>>> your control, but because of your senseless war-mongering,
>>>> these soldiers are being led to slaughter."
>>>
>>> He's got a damn good point...
>>>
>> Archer doesn't see that he's a pawn
>
> Of COURSE not.
>
>> and he doesn't know what Mustang knows about the
>> philosopher's stone.
>
> Nope. I think he also underestimated Scar, which is a bad, bad idea.
>
Archer was blinded by his desire for glory through war, and Bradley used it
when he suggested Archer take his efforts to Lior.
>>>> "Brother," he whispers. Red light arcs through the lines
>>>> Scar transferred to Al's body, and the boy screams.
>>>
>>> And again I say: Poor Al...
>>>
>> Like I said, A Very Bad Day.
>
> Yeah...
>
>>>> "What the hell is that?" Archer asks as the reaction moves
>>>> toward him and his soldiers. He too is consumed.
>>>
>>> Couldn't've happened to a nicer guy. d-:
>>> And that's three fairly major deaths in one episode...
>>>
>> Although Dave seems to be hinting that he wasn't consumed.
>
> And while I realize it's not fail-proof, TVtome.com also says two (not
> three) characters make their last appearances. So... damn.
> Well, there's still time to kill him off. I think Mustang might be the
> one to get that privilege, especially given what Archer pulls in this
> episode. Again, underestimating his enemy. I'd say he really needs to
> learn his lesson about that, but I kinda think (ok, hope) he won't live
> long enough...
Me too. And you're right. Mustang does deserve the honor of killing Archer.
>
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>>
>> If I managed to finish out this series without having a heart
>> attack, it'll be a miracle.
>
> Eep...
>
I don't know why this show has such a visceral effect on me, but it does.
The night Marta was killed, I was shaking. This episode I was
hyperventilating.
>>>> The only survivors appear to be the soldiers he managed to
>>>> shield. "I thought I was dead," one says. "What just
>>>> happened out here?" Ed turns grim. "Pull yourself together,"
>>>> he tells the soldier. "Gather up all the survivors."
>>>
>>> I like Take Charge Ed. ^_^
>>>
>> Well, he probably is the ranking officer among the survivors
>
> True.
>
>> and he's certainly the only one who understands what just happened.
>
> Yeah. Like I said, I like it. Sometimes kids being in charge can be
> annoying, but at this point, and in this PARTICULAR case, I feel like it's
> appropriate.
And he's learned how to be in charge, I think. Making the decisions about
the refugees contributed to this, I think. Rose was really relying on him,
and he came through for her.
>
>>>> "Huh?" says Al. "Am I... I'm back to normal?" Al squeals like
>>>> a little kid. "My body's normal again! I mean, not normal-normal,
>>>> but normal!"
>>>
>>> Best line of the night!
>>
>> Absolutely! I love the "not normal-normal but normal!"
>
> Heh.
> Have you seen _The Emperor's New Groove_?
Yeah. It's been a few years though.
In it, a Mayan (I think; some
> pre-European South American civilization) emperor gets turned into a
> llama, and stays like that for... awhile. Anyway, at one point, he gets a
> hold of a bunch of potions, one of which might be able to change him back
> to being human. He tries several (they're not labeled, of course), and
> turns into various other animals--a whale, a turtle, etc.. Then, he takes
> one and turns back into a llama. He shouts, "Yay, I'm a llama again!
> Wait.."
> Well, this "...not 'normal' normal, but normal!" reminded me of that. ^_^
>
:-)
>>>> Ed is just staring at his brother. "All right... I don't know what
>>>> you're talking about, but... " "Oh, right. Well,
>>>
>>> <snicker>
>>> The way Aaron says that... and whole, "sped up explanation" is
>>> just... cute.
>>>
>> Yeah, like he's happy and proud of himself for surviving.
>
> And so much has happened, in just this past--hour? Few hours?--that it's
> hard to relate it all clearly.
It's been a few hours. Wasn't the scene with Kimbley at night?
>
>>>> Al opens the armor to reveal a glowing red mass in his chest
>>>> cavity.
>>>
>>> As soon as I saw hat I was like. "Close it, close it, close it!" I was
>>> kinda afraid others might see it...
>>>
>> Yeah, that's not a good thing for other people to see, esp. when
>> somebody has a really good eye.
>
> Yeah... I'm a little concerned that Pride saw it...
>
Me too.
>>>> "You should go," she tells them. "It won't belong before
>>>> everyone's after you. My colleagues and the state." "And what about
>>>> you?" Ed asks. "I thought you were after the stone too." "Oh." Al finds
>>>> the locket on his belt.
>>>
>>> I really don't think that's why though...
>>>
>> Me neither. She seems very caring of them here.
>
> Great, she's turned good. Now she's gonna die...
>
You're right. Goodness--the kiss of death.
>>>> And so while I'm thinking about it, I'll pose this question. Ed
>>>> and Al now have what they've been looking, but they also
>>>> know exactly who went into it. Can they use it? Will they
>>>> use it?
>>>
>>> Hmmm.. That IS a good question. Part of me says yes, though I'm
>>> not sure why...
>>
>> Ed couldn't bear to make it in Lab 5. Can he bear to use it knowing
>> how it was made?
>
> Well, speaking of Lab 5--yes, he couldn't bear to make one when it
> involved HIM killing people. But he was going to make one when he thought
> the people were already dead.
> Now, yes, this is a different scenario; he didn't know the supposedly dead
> people in Lab 5, and wasn't around when they supposedly died; which is not
> the case here. So I'm not sure if we can judge what he's gonna do...
>
Angst City, here we come!
> Catherine Johnson.
laurie
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