Re: FMA 2 - Body of the Sanctioned
- From: "Dave Baranyi" <a_nospam.b_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:22:48 -0500
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> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:01:10 GMT, "elsie" <lcubbison@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>>When I watch anime, esp. from Funimation which has two subtitle tracks,
>>one
>>for the Japanese audio and one for the English audio, I usually watch the
>>subtitles for the Japanese track while listening to the English dub. I
>>haven't been doing that for my FMA recaps because I want to give Dave and
>>others who watched the original Japanese version a sense of how the
>>dubbers
>>have translated key lines.
>
> I usually leave the English audio subtitles on, and listen to the
> English dub, just because I like to read as little as possible. It's
> not that I mind reading, I just prefer not to read while watching TV,
> if I have the choice. But there are times if I'm re-watching an
> anime, I'll watch with Japanese audio and subtitles, just to be
> different. I also sometimes rewind and switch audio tracks and turn
> the subtitles on if a line confuses me, or if I have reason to suspect
> it would be interesting or humorous to see what I found...
>
> *snip*
>>>> Ed is brought to Cornello in the temple. Cornello rips Ed's pocket
>>>> watch
>>>>from his belt. He assumes the watch is why Ed can do alchemy without a
>>>>circle. Ed hangs his head, apparently in shame, but from the camera's
>>>>angle
>>>>we see him grin as the episode goes to a break.
>>>
>>> "A military operation involves deception. Even though you are
>>> competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be
>>> ineffective." - Sun Tzu, if I remember correctly...
>>>
>>Well, we certainly see that in Mustang's character, as shown by episode
>>37.
>>Doesn't Mustang actually quote from The Art of War during the Flame v.
>>Fullmetal episode?
>
> I think Mustang said, "Think your enemy is weak and it becomes his
> strength." In the manga, Mustang says something similar, but
> different.. or maybe just says the same thing only much more vaguely
> like "A soldier must keep deception in his arsenal". I don't know if
> those were his exact words in either though.
>
> *snip*
>>>> We move to Cornello's bedroom. A purple ouroboros shapes itself above
>>>> his
>>>>bed, and a horned snake appears in the room. [Damn! I had completely
>>>>forgotten that appeared in this episode.] He wakes with a start. Was the
>>>>ouroboros a nightmare?
>>>
>>> This part seemed like a nightmare to me, at least on my second viewing
>>> (when I watched the DVD).
>>>
>>That's what I thought at first, but then when Lust turned out to be in the
>>room, it sort of seemed like one of those half awake moments when you
>>think
>>you're still dreaming but you're not.
>
> I'll have to pay attention when I watch the episode again. I only
> remember the impression I got on my second viewing... I know I watched
> it twice, but I don't actually remember the first viewing that
> clearly.
>
> *snip*
>>>>Al rescues Rose while Cornello confronts Ed, who says the people will
>>>>discover the truth. "The faithful are not likely to distinguish between
>>>>alchemy and the works of God," Cornello replies. "Really, as long as I'm
>>>>bringing them happiness, what do they care where it comes from?"
>>>
>>> Many things about this show are sadly realistic... like the fact that
>>> the people go back to believing in Cornello (even though it's not
>>> Cornello the second time around) blindly just as before.
>>>
>>I remember a Saturday night in 1978 when I was listening to Casey Kasem's
>>Top 40 on the radio, and during a newsbreak at 9 pm, the announcer gave
>>the
>>first report of the mass suicide of the Peoples Temple cult in Jonestown,
>>Guyana. 914 people died.
>
> FMA is boiling over with tragedies, and the sad part is that many of
> them seem realistic, and some of them actually come pretty close to
> events that have actually happened.
>
> *snip*
>>> Being nothing but a soul in a suit of armor is bad... being partially
>>> human and partially automail is bad... but which is worse? Hmm...
>>>
>>I would fix Al first. I think that his mental health is dependent on it.
>
> You're probably right about that. I would think it's probably also
> more difficult to fix Al... so I'd want to tackle that problem first
> before I use up all my energy. Get the most challenging tasks out of
> the way first.
>
Remember, Ed was the initiator of all this, and as older brother, bears full
responsibility for his younger brother's well-being. And he has failed at
that. Therefore Ed is determined to return Al to his body at almost any
cost. That is the tragedy and the horror of the scene in Lab 5 - Ed just
about "sells his soul" to get Al back.
Ed sees his own losses as his own just punishment for his mistakes. Ed can
live with his mechanical arm and leg - a simple scratch, a splash of solvent
and Al is gone forever...and Ed knows this.
Dave Baranyi
>>>> "Nothing left to do but start the search again," Ed comments. Rose
>>>> still
>>>>has something to say to the boys. "You should never have come here.
>>>>Father
>>>>Cornello gave us hope. What right did you have to take that away? With
>>>>him,
>>>>we believed we could do anything, even bring back the dead. We're a
>>>>desert
>>>>village. We had nothing before that!"
>>>> "You're saying we should have just let everything go on as it was?"
>>>>
>>>>"Well, why not? What do I have to live for, now that I know Cain won't
>>>>come
>>>>back? You tell me that, Ed!"
>>>
>>> I thought Rose was a believable character for this reason... she's
>>> angry that her hope has been taken away, even if it was false... which
>>> implies maybe part of her knew all along... it's just that now she
>>> can't even pretend anymore. I feel sorry for her...
>>>
>>Yes, false hope is comforting. In the end, life has dealt you certain
>>cards,
>>maybe good cards, maybe bad cards, but whatever cards you've got, those
>>are
>>the only ones you have to play with.
>
> Mm-hmm. The reason I thought that having false hope made Rose a
> believable character (and also the situation of all of the people
> believing in Cornello too, not just her), is at first we saw someone
> who seemed innocent and led on... and while that was true... what Ed
> was telling Rose was also true... that she has to decide for herself
> how to move on, and to do so herself... and part of her being led on
> by Cornello was really her leading herself on, wanting to believe
> things that she should have known better than to believe in.
>
>>>> "You'll have to decide for yourself. Walk on your own. Move forward.
>>>> You've
>>>>got a good strong pair of legs, Rose. You should get up and use them."
>>>>Ed
>>>>walks away as Rose falls to her knees.
>>>
>>> If she keeps doing that, her legs won't be healthy anymore...
>>
>>:) Tell me about it. She'll be going to the orthopedist as much as I do.
>
> :)
> --
> Email: aevernon at bellsouth dot net
>
> "It's nearby!"
> "Where?"
> "I found it! That pink alligator!"
> "All right! Special bonus!"
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