Re: FMA 2 - Body of the Sanctioned


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> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:57 GMT, "elsie" <lcubbison@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>>
>>Episode 2 -- Body of the Sanctioned
>>
>>
>>
> *snip*
>> "Oh? Then why are you so anxious to get this stone? You want to beat the
>>laws of equivalence first as I do and bring your mommy back." Dave, does
>>the
>>Japanese use an equivalent of the childish "mommy" here? Cornello is
>>dripping with the condescension of experience toward youth here.
>
> Another advantage of reading this newsgroup is some of the comments
> people make on the differences between the Japanese and English
> versions, most of which I probably wouldn't notice because I don't
> speak Japanese. Sometimes subtle things make a big difference. I
> usually check the Japanese audio track with English subtitles to make
> sure that everything on the DVD works fine, but that of course is only
> when I have a DVD... and I usually only fully watch the dubbed version
> anyway out of laziness. And of course not only are the dubs sometimes
> inaccurate, but the subtitles too since it still has to be
> translated... there is more room for specifics with subtitles, but
> that still doesn't mean the translation is exact.
>
When I watch anime, esp. from Funimation which has two subtitle tracks, one
for the Japanese audio and one for the English audio, I usually watch the
subtitles for the Japanese track while listening to the English dub. I
haven't been doing that for my FMA recaps because I want to give Dave and
others who watched the original Japanese version a sense of how the dubbers
have translated key lines.

> *snip*
>> Ed and Al are sitting outside at the foot of a statue of Leto. They hear
>> a
>>PA system come on, and Cray accuses them of trying to kill Cornello. The
>>townspeople take up arms as Lust and Gluttony look on, smiling. The
>>townspeople confront Ed and Al and we get Ed doing his usual freak-out
>>about
>>being called short. Ed tells them that Cornello is just using alchemy, but
>>Rose tells them that her boyfriend Cain (!) has been resurrected.
>
> I can't remember whether she told us his name before or not...
>
>>Apparently, others have also been brought back, but Ed asks if any of them
>>have actually been seen. They are interrupted by the approach of walking
>>statues. Al has been very quiet during this scene. Now he is struck by a
>>statue's scepter. Ed, too, is struck and passes out.
>>
>> Ed is brought to Cornello in the temple. Cornello rips Ed's pocket watch
>>from his belt. He assumes the watch is why Ed can do alchemy without a
>>circle. Ed hangs his head, apparently in shame, but from the camera's
>>angle
>>we see him grin as the episode goes to a break.
>
> "A military operation involves deception. Even though you are
> competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be
> ineffective." - Sun Tzu, if I remember correctly...
>
Well, we certainly see that in Mustang's character, as shown by episode 37.
Doesn't Mustang actually quote from The Art of War during the Flame v.
Fullmetal episode?

>>Back from the break, the bell ringer discovers the church bell missing,
>>and
>>we see Al sneaking off with it. We then see Rose bringing dinner to Ed,
>>who
>>is chained to a wall. "I hope he's real, Rose. I just don't want you to
>>get
>>disappointed." Ed says, as she hurries away. As Ed moves the dinner tray
>>with his foot, he hears a scraping sound and smiles.
>>
>> We move to Cornello's bedroom. A purple ouroboros shapes itself above his
>>bed, and a horned snake appears in the room. [Damn! I had completely
>>forgotten that appeared in this episode.] He wakes with a start. Was the
>>ouroboros a nightmare?
>
> This part seemed like a nightmare to me, at least on my second viewing
> (when I watched the DVD).
>
That's what I thought at first, but then when Lust turned out to be in the
room, it sort of seemed like one of those half awake moments when you think
you're still dreaming but you're not.

>>But he looks up, and Lust is sitting in a chair at
>>the foot of the bed. "The real secret behind that philosopher's stone
>>stays
>>between us... Right, love?" How do these homunculi travel anyway?
>
> Maybe it's magic, like the birds (or non-birds) later on in this
> episode? :)
>
:)

>>Meanwhile, Rose has returned to the room her boyfriend is supposedly in.
>>"Sorry, Cain, I know you're healing, but I just needed to talk. So much
>>has
>>happened and I'm confused. The shadow raises up, and it speaks her shame.
>>Cornello enters. The curtains blow aside to reveal some sort of duck or
>>goose. [Is this even the real Cornello here? I wonder.]
>>
>>"What's wrong, Rose?" Cornello says. "You got your wish. I'm afraid that
>>even with the stone, I couldn't forge a human soul. I had to use the souls
>>of these birds. You know they can be quite adept at mimicking the human
>>voice. You shouldn't have acted against me, Rose. You've fallen out of the
>>Sun God's favor. Give the real Cain my best, " Cornello says, leaving.
>>The
>>bird flies at her. In the hallway, Cornello says, " There's only one soul
>>left who knows the secret of the stone, but not for long."
>>
>>Al rescues Rose while Cornello confronts Ed, who says the people will
>>discover the truth. "The faithful are not likely to distinguish between
>>alchemy and the works of God," Cornello replies. "Really, as long as I'm
>>bringing them happiness, what do they care where it comes from?"
>
> Many things about this show are sadly realistic... like the fact that
> the people go back to believing in Cornello (even though it's not
> Cornello the second time around) blindly just as before.
>
I remember a Saturday night in 1978 when I was listening to Casey Kasem's
Top 40 on the radio, and during a newsbreak at 9 pm, the announcer gave the
first report of the mass suicide of the Peoples Temple cult in Jonestown,
Guyana. 914 people died.

> *snip*
>>Ed has retrieved his pocket watch. "Just another wild goose chase," he
>>says.
>>"And here I thought we could finally put you back in the flesh again," he
>>says to Al, who replies, "No, brother, you'll be the first we fix. That
>>automail's so tough on you."
>
> Being nothing but a soul in a suit of armor is bad... being partially
> human and partially automail is bad... but which is worse? Hmm...
>
I would fix Al first. I think that his mental health is dependent on it.

>> "Nothing left to do but start the search again," Ed comments. Rose still
>>has something to say to the boys. "You should never have come here. Father
>>Cornello gave us hope. What right did you have to take that away? With
>>him,
>>we believed we could do anything, even bring back the dead. We're a desert
>>village. We had nothing before that!"
>> "You're saying we should have just let everything go on as it was?"
>>
>>"Well, why not? What do I have to live for, now that I know Cain won't
>>come
>>back? You tell me that, Ed!"
>
> I thought Rose was a believable character for this reason... she's
> angry that her hope has been taken away, even if it was false... which
> implies maybe part of her knew all along... it's just that now she
> can't even pretend anymore. I feel sorry for her...
>
Yes, false hope is comforting. In the end, life has dealt you certain cards,
maybe good cards, maybe bad cards, but whatever cards you've got, those are
the only ones you have to play with.

>> "You'll have to decide for yourself. Walk on your own. Move forward.
>> You've
>>got a good strong pair of legs, Rose. You should get up and use them." Ed
>>walks away as Rose falls to her knees.
>
> If she keeps doing that, her legs won't be healthy anymore...

:) Tell me about it. She'll be going to the orthopedist as much as I do.

> --
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>
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> "Where?"
> "I found it! That pink alligator!"
> "All right! Special bonus!"

laurie


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