Re: Extremely shy clown loaches now have Ich


"Elaine T" <eetmail-fish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Derek W. Benson wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:14:09 +0200, Derek W. Benson <benson@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>A couple other somewhat interesting things I wanted to mention or
> >>quote here, but it's past my bedtime so I'll come back to it tomorrow.
> >>-Derek
> >
> >
> > For those of us (myself, for example) who tend to raise the
> > temperature on a tank to speed up the Ich life cycle and hopefully
> > remove an Ich infestation without meds, here was an interesting bit:
> >
> > "Special Considerations for
> > Treatment of Pet Fish
> >
> > "Pet fish can be treated with any of the chemicals
> > discussed above to correct "Ich" infections. A number
> > of commercial preparations are available from pet
> > stores which contain one or several of these agents.
> > Temperature manipulation is also an effective way to
> > control "Ich" in home aquariums. This technique is
> > often not practical for commercial fish farms, but is
> > advantageous for the hobbyist because expensive
> > products do not have to be purchased and it is safer
> > for some of the delicate species which are popular in
> > community tanks. Water temperature can be
> > gradually raised to 90°F, maintained there for 24
> > hours, and then gradually dropped to 70°F for 48
> > hours. The infective juveniles (tomites) will be killed
> > while the water temperature is at 90°. When the
> > temperature is dropped the adult organisms will fall
> > off the fish and begin to reproduce. As the young
> > begin to emerge 48 hours later, the temperature is
> > again raised to 90°F, causing them to die. Repeating
> > this process continuously (24 hours at 90° F
> > followed by 48 hours at 70° F) for two weeks should
> > control the disease. Cleaning the tank every second
> > day will help remove cysts before they rupture and
> > therefore help to prevent completion of the life cycle.
> > If you decide to use temperature to control "Ich" in
> > your home aquarium be sure that the type of fish in
> > your tank can tolerate the temperature extremes
> > involved."
> >
> > The above is from the following source:
> >
> > This document is CIR920, one of a series of the Fisheries and Aquatic
> > Sciences Department, Florida Cooperative Extension Service, Institute
> > of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida. Original
> > publication date March, 1991. Reviewed July, 2002. Visit the EDIS Web
> > Site at
> > http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu.Please visit the FAIRS Web site at
> > http://hammock.ifas.ufl.edu.
> >
> > Ruth Francis-Floyd, IFAS ExtensionVeterinarian, Department of Large
> > Animal Clinical Sciences, and Peggy Reed, Biological Scientist,
> > Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences and Department of
> > Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences; Cooperative Extension Service,
> > Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, University of Florida,
> > Gainesville, 32611.
>
> Nice find! I've known to bump up temps for a long time, and have killed
> off ich by maintaining a tank at 86F for two weeks (using the additional
> aeration NetMax mentioned). I've never seen a recommendation to cycle
> it from high to low before, but I bet that's much easier on aquatic
plants.
>
> --
> Elaine T __
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The whole thing sounds better than adding chemicals that give dubious
results but I'm always to chicken to experiment....I have certainly read
about similar ways of dealing with Ich without the temp fluctuations....

BTW down to 3 Neons - with the question that how in the world can you lose a
dead neon in a bare 5 gall tank? Found it in the end after hunting for an
hour.....explains a lot about disappearing tetras....

I've dosed them with more Interpet Anti White Spot - I'm not convinced now
that it is Ich but it contains the same active ingredients as Protozin. I've
also bleached and rinsed the original tank and all its contents - had to set
it up again because I wasn't going to risk putting the plants in any other
tank and couldn't quite bring myself to bin them - treated with bleach
solution. From my understanding, if I leave it fishless for 2 weeks or so
then any remaining chance of parasites will have gone (however, I do think
that the bleach would have finished them off anyhow). Have swopped out the
filter for a Fluval 2 because the water quality issue is niggling at me in
both it being "Matt's death tank" and what has just happened....I know when
Matt's fish died the water quality wasn't an issue in the end but I
certainly think it might have contributed here...better to address any
concerns than run uneccessary risks. I'm a little apprehensive of ever
putting fish back in there but will do it very slowly without any risk
takes - the filter/tank will be seeded as and when the new fish go in - very
slowly.

Thanks everyone for all your help and support plus the great debate and info
that everyone digs up - it is this sort of debate that will move us on in
caring for our fish :-)

Gill


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