Re: Thunderbird developers: Get rid of this bug immediately.

kristlebawl wrote:
Hieronymus S. Freely wrote:
kristlebawl wrote:
Hieronymus S. Freely wrote:
Furthermore, and assuming that it exists, given the apparently poor literacy of its creator it is unlikely that it is very useful let alone has any kind of official blessing of Mozilla. That Mozilla's web site points those seeking support to a set of Web forums is the final clincher: since Moz's official support forums demonstrably are web boards, rather than newsgroups, it follows that any newsgroup you name is not one of Moz's official support forums. Even if it does exist. Which in this case seems rather doubtful.

Again, that newsgroup is not carried by aioe but

But nothing. I am not changing nntp provider just to satisfy you.

FWIW, I can't find any indication that either of the other two free nntp providers carry the named group. (Eternal-september.org and Google Groups). So changing my news provider would not change matters anyway. Meanwhile it WOULD be rather annoying; both of those, unlike aioe, require registration.

As far as I am aware, all other usenet providers charge money. Teranews charges a one-time setup fee, individual.net a small yearly fee (and in euros, a currency I don't have ready access to), and the rest (e.g. Giganews) a sizable monthly fee.

F<edit>k that.

I'm not paying just to have a bug fixed. A bug is a manufacturing defect; and any monetary cost for fixing a manufacturing defect should be eaten by the manufacturer of the defective product, not by the consumer.

[names a server]

Since that server is not any of the known free usenet servers I conclude that, by process of elimination, it must be a pay server.

I refuse to pay for nntp access, and doubly refuse to spend money on your say-so. I *triply* refuse to spend money to have a defect in somebody else's product fixed, and I QUADRUPLY refuse to do so with no guarantee that spending the money will result in any outcome more productive than what's happened here.

Yes, it's a design flaw, a known and documented bug, but it hasn't been fixed because so few people bother to take the complaint directly to Mozilla support forums and newsgroups, like you, so none of the volunteer programmers have enough interest in fixing it.

First of all, the "forums and newsgroups" are in fact forums. Second, their interest in fixing it should be proportional to the severity of the defect, not to how many complaints they've had. The latter is a useless measure of defect importance -- a major defect might stop anyone even being able to complain (crashing their computers, or whatever) and a minor one might annoy someone enough to "stuff the ballot box".

Perhaps, if, instead of ranting to people with no control over it, you had simply asked them to go to Mozilla and add their own names to the list of people interested in a fix, it would have been fixed years ago.

Clearly impossible, since I did not even know about this defect years ago.

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