Re: XNA redux
- From: »Q« <boxcars@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:17:00 -0500
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:58:14 -0700
"Mike Easter" <MikeE@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
For all of those reasons, I think XNA shouldn't be used both on the
basis of netiquette offensiveness as well as its unpredictable
One's fellow newsreaders don't like it; they consider it rude and
It has no effect on one's fellow newsreaders per se; it only has an
effect on people looking at Google's Usenet archives. Those people
can have no reasonable expectation that Google will display all posts,
and I don't understand why they'd feel offended when they discover
that Google won't.
The XNA/ed content can get archived somewhere raw meaning as posted
by the OP, or it might get archived in GG or gmane by being quoted by
someone anyone on GG before it expires or by someone anyone using a
newsreader before or after it would expire on GG. Once quoted, the
quoted material and its source attribution of course has no expiry on
GG or gmane.
I don't consider any of those things unpredictable or failures.
XNA stops Google Groups from displaying posts after a few days.
Failure is extremely rare.
That seems to be the case when considered in its direct sense.
The alleged other senses of it are just red herrings; it does what
it does, nothing more.
It also presumptuously puts 'demands' or requirements on others
which are not justified.
"I see you put an XNA on your message. Sorry, that doesn't 'work'
for me/ my archiver."
GG and gmane pledge to honor xna and gmane pledges to honor other
expiries as well. As a result, I think that many or most of those
who use XNA expect that _all_ who can archive are obligated to
somehow honor the XNA (for them). In this case the term 'all' means
anything that is capable of saving and posting newsmessages
indefinitely, such as webware.
If they think that, and so far no one who does think that has spoken
up, they should stop thinking that. In any case, possible
misconceptions about what the results will be aren't any reason for or
against using XNA.
FWIW, it also works on Yahoo!'s groups/mailing lists (or at least it
did a few years ago). XNA'd posts went out via e-mail but weren't ever
displayed in Yahoo!'s web interface.
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