Re: [UIP] Usenet Newbie Links

Whiskers wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Sidney Lambe wrote:
The Usenet Newbie Project
http://www.tgos.org/newbie/

I stopped reading after just a couple of paragraphs. The
medium-light blue text on medium-dark blue background drove me nuts.
Nearly unreadable...

Which browser? Doesn't look too bad here using Opera. Works OK in
Lynx, too.

I was using Firefox 3, but it doesn't matter. The colors don't change
from one graphical browser to the next. Looks same to me in Opera --
very low color contrast between content and background. I don't have
Lynx on this Ubuntu box.

Are you sure? Perhaps you have Links instead, but I thought Lynx was one
of those things you can be pretty sure to find on any *nix system with
user access. ...

Both Lynx and Links are available, but neither installed by default. As
I had no pressing need for either, I did not add them.

Here is what I see:
http://tekrider.net/usenet/tgos.png

Apart from being very small, that is what I see when I look at that
image on my computer. Perhaps there is a difference in the way our
monitors display colours and brightness and contrast? (Aging CRTs
can get very dim - and I know from experience that dust and tobacco
smoke can make anything turn dim and brown).

New 22" LCD wide-screen 1680x1050, no smoking, no dust, nice'n'bright.

Not everyone has 20-year-old eyes... :-/

I certainly don't (nearer to 60 than 50, and never as good as
'average').

Yur a young'un! <g>

To all who responded with "things to try", sure, I know I can do all
that stuff; I am not a newbie, thankyouverymuch. User mode. Turn off
author colors. Increase text size. Font smoothing, etc etc. But the page
is geared to newbies .. and will any of them who might not have perfect
vision bother -- or know how -- to adjust the browser so they can read
it?

The problem with the tgos.org site is the misuse of CSS. There are two
major style sheets: style.css and headings.css. They are called in
that order, both as "first-level" sheets, and the latter has a body
font-size: x-small. Everything else cascades from that. The content
color is: color: #85865D; and if that is changed to white, it is much
more legible, especially if the size is changed to 'normal' or '100%'.

It appears Mr tgos picked up a blogger's template somewhere, without
understanding what all those parts do.

Yes, I write web sites. ;-)

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