Re: Any newsreader front-end to Google Groups?

On 2008-05-28, James Harris <james.harris.1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 28 May, 00:44, Whiskers <catwhee...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2008-05-27, James Harris <james.harri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 27 May, 20:22, SINNER <arcade.mas...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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I should say that had I recently been used to using a local newsreader
I might well have thought the same as others on this newsgroup. I
would much prefer a keyboard based interface, would love to filter out
the garbage from GG, would love to avoid some of its bugs and could do
with better access performance etc but having got used to the
omniscient server-side recording of what has been read and what hasn't
and the ubiquitous web interface are killer advantages for me.

Can you describe exactly how the articles you've 'read' are distinguished
from the others for you? I've just logged in to my Google Groups account
to read this group, and I can't see any 'option' to mark an article as
read, and it certainly doesn't happen automatically. There is nothing I
can see to tell 'read' articles from others.

The unread messages show in bold. One of the bugs (IMHO) is that it
can take while to update. Try checking again after a while.

I just logged in and went back to this group. After poking around for a
while I found that enabling 'javascript' and then selecting 'tree view',
articles posted since my last visit are indicated in 'bold' in the 'tree';
but that doesn't distinguish 'read' from 'unread', only 'what's been
posted since you were last here' which is not the same thing at all.

Even that is rather spoilt by Google's coding which restricts the 'tree'
view to eight lines of text in both the 'tree' and the 'article' panes,
making that view pretty useless. That may just be Google's inability to
code web pages properly, rather than a deliberate 'feature'. The
'standard' view uses more of the screen space but doesn't offer the
'posted since you were last here' indication.

A real news-reader can truly indicate the difference between 'read' and
'unread' articles - and gives you the opportunity to 'mark all as read' or
'mark all as unread' or toggle the 'read' state of individual articles -
none of which is possible with Google's interface as far as I can see. (I
prefer not even to see 'read' articles when I open a group, and have my
newsreader set accordingly - in fact that's what it does by default). All
those things happen instantly, if course, not 'when Google gets around to
it'.

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