Re: [agent] kill by ip?
- From: agent.v2.user <agent.v2.user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:38:15 +0000
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:56:34 -0500 'Mike Yetto'
wrote this on news.software.readers:
Bada bing agent.v2.user <agent.v2.user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> bada bang:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:48:50 +1300 'Ralph Fox'
wrote this on news.software.readers:
On 14 Dec 2007 20:24:58 GMT, in message <4762e69a$0$1522$dbd4b001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Wayne Garmil <wgarmil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]
Agent can only filter on the overview headers unless you also download
the article bodies.
Sorry for hijacking this thread (and you? :-)), but do you know if
Agent can filter (I assume you mean 'score', i.e. down, but also up) on
a MID and a MID pattern in the References: header, and if so, since
which version?
No, it cannot.
The answer(s) might help our dear friend 'agent.v2.user' with his
'problem'.
Friend 'agent.v2.user' may need to read this:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
Nope, that's not relevant to this situation Ralph because it was
not me who raised the issue of news client capabilities. I simply
nagged at another poster for responding to a post and changing
the Subject title, causing me to get a new thread starting with Re:
Other people brought up the issue of news clients and suggested I
change my news client to solve the problem, but so far nobody has
been able to actually produce a workable solution to the problem,
although Frank and Rom have tried...
The solution is to filter/score on the references header. If
your newsreader can't do this use a proxy server that can.
your suggestion has already been made but it doesn't work.
Here's why:
-how I can filter on the References: header when I have already
dropped the original article and it doesn't appear in my message
list, unless that is, someone replies to it, by which time it's too
late, because the very thing I wanted to avoid has then happened
(ie: too many new threads appearing starting with Re:).
Further, if one person replies to it, there's no way of knowing
that others will, so creating a filter by digging out the
References: header from that reply might be wasted time.
-also, consider that out of the hundreds of articles per day which
are dropped by me, only a few of them ever get replied to by other
posters, so time spent on creating filters for articles would mainly
be wasted time, *if* I had the MIDs for them in the first place,
which I don't, unless someone replies to them.
The truth is as I said at the start of the debate ... there is no
solution to the problem using news clients and that is why *I* never
asked the question, it was others who popped up claiming there was
a solution and have now been found lacking. The uninformed expert
syndrome.
You can act on this by asking for information about proxy servers
for filtering or you can just keep asking for a different answer.
Eventually no more will be offered.
See above, it was others, not me, who claimed there was a solution.
I always knew there wasn't but was prepared to go along with the
'experts'.
HTH
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