Re: Need fetch ONLY marked bodies.
- From: Whiskers <catwheezel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:08:39 +0100
On 2007-05-12, Frank Slootweg <this@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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SINNER <arcade.master@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
* wrote in news.software.readers:
[...]
Any and all newsreaders. In Linux use leafnode, in Windows use Hamster.
I think you misunderstood the requirement. The requirement is to first
only download the headers (or even just the XOVER data?), manually/
visually 'browse' through the headers, mark those which look interesting
and then only download the bodies belonging to the marked headers.
"Any and all newsreaders. In Linux use leafnode, in Windows use
Hamster." do not solve *that* requirement, at least not for ""Any and
all newsreaders." and probably not even for most newsreaders.
For example tin can not do this. It *can* download the XOVER data first,
but there is no way to browse the XOVER data and mark the interesting
articles, let alone download them after marking.
[...]
That seems a strange state of affairs; why have the ability to fetch only
the XOVER, if you can't do anything useful with it? (I've never used Tin
so I can't offer any useful comments).
One point of using a local proxy news-server is that it adds this ability;
the 'marking' is done by 'reading' an article, and the fetching of the
body is done by the proxy server so that it is available to whatever
newsreader the user uses. The newsreader is only required to function in
'on-line' mode - it /is/ on line to the local proxy server, via the NNTP
protocol.
For example from man noffle:
NOFFLE is an Usenet package optimized for low speed dialup Internet
connections and few users. The noffle program is used for running
and steering of the proxy news server, for retrieving new articles
from the remote server and for expiring old articles from the
database. NOFFLE can fetch newsgroups in one of the following
modes:
full fetch full articles,
over fetch only article overviews by default. Opening an article
marks it for download next time online,
thread like over, but download articles full if an article of the
same thread already has been downloaded.
and from man noffle.conf:
NOFFLE supports basic filtering on incoming articles. Articles to be
downloaded can be matched against one or more criteria and matching
articles are marked for download using one of the group subscribe
modes full, over or thread. Alternatively the filter may specify
that the article mode is discard in which case neither the article
nor the article overview will be downloaded.
Once an article body has been fetched, it stays in the local spool until
purged according to the appropriate settings.
Leafnode has similar, although not precisely equivalent, abilities, but
goes about things in a different way (I don't think it has an equivalent
for 'thread mode', although I could be wrong about that).
As Noffle requires an article to be 'read' by a newsreader for it to be
marked for fetching if the default setting for that group or filter is to
fetch in 'over' mode, the user has to get into the habit of not
automatically marking as read at the first 'read'; that may require either
personal discipline or a setting in the newsreader's configuration or
set-up - or both. I suspect that some newsreaders might struggle to cope
with such an arrangement, particularly those which are really emailers
with newsgroups as an afterthought.
I forget what features Hamster has, although I remember being favourably
impressed when I first tried it and looking for a direct equivalent for
Linux when first I switched OS and hadn't quite grasped the Unix/Linux
mind-set. I haven't tried slrn-pull or INN or sn or Newsstar (... yet).
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