Re: (Xnews) Memory Problems reading goups with millions of posts - Thanks ->>> with a P.S. for SCPO

SINNER <99nesorjd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:t35nc3xcc8.ln2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

* thanatoid wrote in news.software.readers:

You didn't say WHICH suggestion helped and there were some
very different ones.

Since mine was NOT one of them, I felt it could be helpful.

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Not to mention the fact that I clearly stated MY statement
was merely a guess, did you miss that?

You said "educated guess". Look up the meaning of "educated
guess". Yours was merely a guess. I was making fun of your usage
of a common-yet-misunderstood cliché.

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Since I can DL well above 250,000 headers in Xnews and I
only have 512 megs of RAM I guess the one lacking savvy
is you.

No, you just have 8 times more RAM. If that makes you smarter,
so be it.

If you enjoy scrolling through and analyzing 250,000
headers at a time, then your brain must be very superior
indeed. Try a million for some real fun.

But that wasn't the issue you were addressing was it? Not
to mention that since Xnews makes multipart bins appear as
one file, 250,000 isn't really that much to look through.

It depends on what group you are in. If you are talking about a
DVD group where 250,000 headers makes for 3 posts, of course.
But you did not specify these details. In some groups, 250,000
headers is 250,000 articles.

Why do you think XNews has an "incremental retrieval"
box (press Ctl-Enter when entering a group and if it has
a lot of unread articles, you will see it)?

Uhm because Luu thought it was a good feature? Most if
not all newsreaders worth their weight have the same or
similar features.

a) And WHY is it a good feature?

Choice is ALWAY A Good Thing [tm]. You just said you have a
hard time looking through 250,000 headers so what do you do
when you encounter such a group and CANNOT do that?

Besides its hundreds of great semi-documented features, Xnews
does it and that's why I won't use anything else. As I said
before, I download 10-30K at a time and that works JUST FINE for
me. Xnews' default is 15K, BTW. Not 250K and not one million.
Ponder that one.

(Choice is ALWAY A Good Thing [tm] - Did someone else [tm] the
"ALWAY" version or is that your own creation?)

b) Not true.

Name one that can't. slrn can, Xnews can, Pan can, Sylpheed
can, I bet OE can too, the list goes on.

I've never used OE but from what I've heard even of it, even if
it does, it probably fucks it up. GrabIt (quite popular
recently) can't, for one. I am not going to try every stupid
newsreader just to come up with exact statistics for the sake of
proving a generalization. And I have no Mac or Linux experience.

Set it to something reasonable (I set it to 15,000 - but
I have an old computer with 64MB), and tick the box to
dump headers

Ahhh, the truth comes out. You are using Hardware that is
outdated by todays standards and because of it, so is
your information.

Well, I guess you'd better just come over and kill me for
not allowing the corporations to shove their latest
bloated overpriced crap down my throat when everything I
want, I can do just fine with my machine, and faster than
you.

Did you happen to check my headers to actually SEE what
client I was using before making such a silly accusation?
Corporations and Bloat don't really apply to my OS or NNTP
Client of choice.

Decide whether you are talking about hardware or software.
Obviously, since you do not use OE, it is not a big surprise you
use Linux, and my hat's off to you for that. Linux is too
complicated for me to get into and anyway, after hundreds of
hours of tweaking (admittedly unfortunate yet necessary), I get
along with 95B on a 166MMX/64MB/33.6 for the internet and a 2GB
Pentium with 98SE Lite for real work (and no internet
connection) just fine. I bet your processor is not a Pentium 90,
is it?

And since you are SOOOO smart... Tell me, why do annoying
prigs insist on answering posts not directed to them?

Its the nature of Usenet, if you only expected an answer
from the OP perhaps you should consider email?

Many different people are on the Usenet, and some enjoy being
annoying more than others. I tried to be helpful while you
attacked my viewpoint and advice. I find it unfortunate how much
confrontation enters into almost every group.

P.S. - for SCPO
Since several persons feel Xnews is not very good for large
binary multi-parts, I would just like to say that while I have
never DL'd a DVD, I have downloaded entire CD images with it and
never had a single problem. If the post is bad, OTOH, you will
of course have problems (and waste time), but with a little
experience bad posts can be spotted fairly easily. Your problems
are likely due to Windows. It took me years to get it running
right. And you need a bunch of non-MS programs to achieve that.
And I wouldn't TOUCH XP for anything in the world.
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