Re: Google Groups filtering emails?

"Alfred Z. Newmane" <a.newmane.remove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> MartinS wrote:
>> "Alfred Z. Newmane" <a.newmane.remove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> MartinS wrote:
>>>> Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> MartinS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about that multiple-file selection bug, where Windows puts
>>>>>> the first file selected last? It's still there in XP/SP2.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it's not. It might be present in the latest version of OE,
>>>>> which is developed seperately. (I'm running the latest version
>>>>> of OE on Millenium here.)
>>>>
>>>> I don't use OE - never have, never will.
>>>>
>>>> It happens any time you go to select a contiguous group of files
>>>> from Explorer or a file selection box. If you want the files to
>>>> be in the same order as displayed in Explorer, e.g. when you open
>>>> them in an mp3 player such as Winamp, you have to select the last
>>>> file first, then hold shift and click on the first one. This has
>>>> been a bug since at least Win98, possibly Win95.
>>>
>>> This is NOT a bug, but how the interface works. People think it's
>>> a bug because of a lack of understanding of /how/ the interface
>>> works.
>>>
>>> The way it works is this: You select a group of files, either with
>>> SHIFT or CTRL, then when you want to drag, the file you drag will
>>> be first to be processed. A good way to see this is to drag a
>>> group of files into winamp. You will notice that the file you
>>> click on to start the drag will get a selection box, signifiying
>>> that will be the first file.
>>>
>>> It really is amzing how people are so quick to label something
>>> they don't understand a bug :-P
>>
>> I've never heard that explained that way, and I've been using
>> Windows since version 1 - thanks. However, bug or not, it's
>> counter-intuitive, particularly when selecting a range of files to
>> Open (or Cut/Copy). The last one you select shows first in the file
>> name list - so you have to select the one you want first, last. The
>> easiest way to do that is to click on the last first, hold SHIFT
>> and click on the first
>
> That's because the last one you /select/, is still selected. IF the
> last one is the file that still selected, why would you /not/ expect
> it to be processd first? It seems here it comes down to how one
> looks at it, and you just can't please everyone. Even if it makes
> sense to many, not everyone will understand it (or read the help
> file entry for it :-P )

What help file entry is that? XP Help and Support Center says:

To select multiple files and folders
Open My Documents.
Do one of the following :
To select consecutive files or folders, click the first item, press
and hold down SHIFT, and then click the last item.


Now that I understand how it works, I can do things a little
differently when dragging a group of files. I still maintain it's
counter-intuitive to the vast majority of people, and agree with you
that many would not understand if it were explained to them. I have
seen this referred to many times, and always (until now) as a "bug".

--
Martin S.
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