Re: Real Computer Developers (Re: Well, is firing Wagoner good for GM?

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On Apr 1, 11:51 am, gekko <ge...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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 Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen <dearci...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I. B. Larfin wrote:
When I entered the computing field in 1972 the hot jobs were in
operating system development, telecommunication, low-level networking
and so forth.  Employers expected you to understand interrupt
handling, multi-threading, actual technical stuff.  The other day I
heard someone who should have been "in the know" explaining that IT is
a good field to learn because they need lots of Oracle DBA's.  What a
joke.

I amused myself with C and assembler when I was younger, but now the
demand is for high-level languages like perl and PL/SQL. I don't see
why this is a bad thing or indicates decline.

Lots of peeps have variations of the "not invented here" syndrome, along
with this "Why in MY day, you whippersnapper ..." variation.

Mechanics today aren't *real* mechanics because they can't tear apart
and rebuild an 8 cylinder with 4-barrel Holly Whatsit and have it
purrin' within the span of 10 minutes like *I* could back in MY day.

When I entered the engineering world I wasn't a *real* engineer because
I preferred being a code slinger, working down in assembler and
manipulating the signals going to the chips, but I wasn't doing RF work.

Kids today code using DKs and graphics.  They plop graphic boxes down on
a computer screen, click a GUI button and out pops the code.  They're
not REAL coders.

<shrug>

If you have to think of a way to solve a problem and use some mix of
technical know-how, intuition and creativity, then by golly you're an
engineer/coder/designer.  I don't care what your language or tools are.
I don't care if it's laying out nano-chips and tracks, or writing GOTO
statements.  It's the method, not the tools that define your job.

--
gekko
"Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?"

"Mechanics today aren't *real* mechanics because they can't tear apart
and rebuild an 8 cylinder with 4-barrel Holly Whatsit and have it
purrin' within the span of 10 minutes like *I* could back in MY day. "

You must be an engineer.

There is no way to teardown and rebuild a V8 in 10 minutes. I have the
skinned knuckles to prove it.

'k, well, I _may_ have been using a touch of hyperbole. Maybe. Not
saying I was, but the possibility exists.


--
gekko (<-- managed to rebuild a motorcycle engine in HS auto shop, tho)
"Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?"
.

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