Re: The Loyal Opposition

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Bill Penrose <dangerousbill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 15, 1:15 am, Just Me <jpd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

NOW YOU KNOW THAT. Don't You? Then you God damn better well learn
from History, or be faced with the prospect of repeating it.

Pot, kettle. It's all in the interpretation. Wisdom is not found in
the upper case.


CONCERN yourself rather with what the oil companies are getting
away
with RIGHT NOW, cutting back on refinement, RIGHT NOW when gas
OUGHT
to be selling for $1.29 the gallon.

It should be selling for $8 a gallon. Otherwise, we'll just keep
burning more of it until it runs out. As soon as the price of gas
dropped last Fall, all the impetus for alternative energy vanished
overnight.

When it's gone, not only will be lose cheap gas for running to
McDonalds and piloting massive SUVs, we'll lose air and food
transportation, high-output farming, plastics and other synthetic
chemicals, and all the other things that support the American
lifestyle.

Or are you one of those neos who believes that God is making oil
underground as fast as we can pump it? Yes, there are people who
believe that.

DB

You can find urls that "prove" more oil is being spontaneously
generated in the Ukraine or some ***. Doesn't make it true.

I remember a guy in Belgium (no, not Alan) telling me that gas was
something like $6 per kilo (quart? sorry, I forget the unit at the
moment) which meant something like $25/gallon, but I don't know
offhand how to find today's gas prices there. We'd probably find
them
pretty outrageous unless he was just pulling my leg.

That'd be litre.
Geez.
Funny thing is, if it was water you'd be right. A litre of water
weighs
a
kilogram.

Yeah, litre. Or liter. Whatever. Fucksake, I have trouble enough
remembering how many quarts are in a gallon. Any idea what this
week's gas price per litre is in the eurozone? Apparently a gallon is
equivalent to 3.79 litres. I am trying to prepare myself to
appreciate that I last paid $1.71 per gallon. (I already appreciate
that the price per gallon here is once again below $3, but having
filled my '53 Ford for $.26/gallon in 1965, it's a grudging
appreciation.)

$6.25/gal in Holland, 12 cents in Venezuela.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12464789/

Hell, we'll probably pass Holland's price by September.

Still, how bad can it be if the price of gas is a major concern? Lotsa
people worry about the price of food.
Hell, water falls out of the sky and we pay more for it than for gas.

Food prices have been going up. We notice that kind of thing.

Water is a sore issue, we can't afford to have a well dug so we have
to pay about $100 to have a load of 1500 gallons trucked up the hill.

How long does 1500 gallons last?

We have a 1500 gallon cistern but we order water when there are a few
hundred gallons left. I'd extimate that we use 500-600 gallons per
month.

I'm guessing you don't irrigate anything
with water you pay for.

Correct.

We're gonna pay from 5 to maybe 10 grand to drill on our acres on Texada
Island. There's a wet spot in the low corner where we could dig a well but
there's farms uphill from us and I don't want to rely on surface water. We'd
be having to have it tested all the time in summer.

Last time I checked prices, drilling here was $15/foot. Thing is,
there's no water table here, water seeps down into fissures in the
bedrock granite. No guarantee you'll hit water at all, or that it
will be close to the surface.

The enlightened shitwads of Colorado have water-rights laws in place
that make it illegal to capture rainfall. God bless the USA and every
nitwitted fucktard in our goobermint.

What's that about? Farmers downstream worried about having enough to water
their crops?

Ranchers. It's bull***, but it's the law. Pisses me off because the
storms we have in the summer are torrential and we just have to watch
it go downhill. We're about 15 feet below the crest of a ridge and
I've seen rainwater going down the driveway in fucking *waves*. So it
goes.

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