Re: Lloyd "Skip" Press discusses his "old friend Jayne Hitch***"

gekko <gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So it isn't a triple-dark-fudge brownie with a scoop of vanilla bean
icecream on top, but boots <no@xxxxx> did write something
interesting in news:52i374l2fk5hb00fhj9ma1lvqhmdo1q031@xxxxxxx:


gekko <gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Okay, so, like, there was this, um, you know, boots <no@xxxxx>,
who was all, 'You go girl,' and then went:


Used to be you was better at detecting riledness, did you smudge
yer glasses?

Still good. You can deny all you want, luv, but the words are the
words. If you didn't intend to convey "riled" you should've
written with different words.

Help me learn then, what specifically did I write that gave you
the impression that I was riled? (Keep it simple/specific or
it'll be beyond my understanding, iow a seven hundred word
cut-and-paste is going to go right over my pointy head.) Or not
of course, your time is exactly that.

Before I get all involved in responding, "thanks" for posting an
explanation.

Keeping context, Alan wrote this confrontational, pissy bit:

Alan: Whatever the *** that means. He steals my vocab
then disses me. What a red-nosed ***.

Specifically, you wrote this:
boots: What vocab have I stolen here? "mothballs"? "scrotal
boots: capacity"? And if I have learnt words from you, is that
boots: stealing them? You own the dictionary you diss as being
boots: useless in the face of usage? Stop being a twat Alan, it's
boots: both unnecessary and unuseful.

You defended yourself from an obvious flame, but not by redirection,
or raising the stakes. You did a "nuh-uh" and a "so're you!"
defense.

The primary reason for self-defense is that something "got" to you.
People defend themselves if they feel someone was somehow unfair to
them. It's an emotional response, not a logical one.


After you did the "nuh-uh!" and by the second full sentence ("And if
I have learnt...") you took to whining.

At the end is when you got confrontational but you did not raise the
stakes or show cleverness or in any other way indicate you were
trying to play the flame game; you dragged a prior argument into it
as though that still stung and responded directly to Alan's name-
calling by calling him a similar but less impacting name.

People don't usually do this defense for conversational or gaming
purposes. It's an acknowledgement the the insult stung.

Okay, I see that reasoning and in the final analysis everything we do
stems from some desire whether positive or negative so I can't
truthfully say there was no emotion involved at any point. It was not
as you interpreted it to be, but your interpretation is a reasonable
one.

Without going into details, let's say I've been spring-loaded in the
smack-Alan position lately. His positions regarding what a writer's
own work is, and dictionary definition vs usage, impress me as nearly
as ludicrous as his "because I said so" argument for whatever he
wishes to spew at the moment. His discussion of these topics has
amounted to "you're stupid" or "I said". So what you're seeing isn't
a whining self-defense so much as an attempt to get the dogmatic twat
to actually discuss something instead of prancing away with a
"rubbish" comment to kick Skip or Ray for amusement.

If you were not the author of the above -- if it had been Stan, say,
what would your impression of it be?

Ah but you are a clever little reptile, choosing Stan in your
question. If it had been Stan, I might be scrolling upthread to find
out whether it was Skip or Ray who had called him a repulsive shitbag.

I contend that the single most difficult part of writing is to get
your typing fingers around what you actually want to say. If my
writing was better, instead of posting the words I posted I might have
written something very different. But I also contend that it is not
the skills we have now or the battles of yesterday that matter, rather
it is our direction and the level of our constancy that tells the
tale. That's my mackerel and I'm stickin' to it.

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Don't read this crap... oops, too late!

[superstitious heathen grade 8]
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