Re: Who's trippin' down the streets of the city

In article <Xns99BA761F8306Bcrinkles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
gekko <gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<UNsnip!>
Sylvia wrote:
Ed Rhodes wrote:

<...>
at least one hurricane (Dave) hit Virgina in the 1970s
..
Not according to the United States Government's National Oceanic &
Atmospheric Administration:
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/valate20hur.htm
..
and that minor storms are quite capable of uprooting trees
<snip more pretense that I claimed that only a hurricane
could uproot trees>
..
Ray Haddad did not describe "minor storm" damage.

"When I got back, I discovered a tree had fallen smack
into the middle of my car which was parked over 100
yards from the tree on the base at Norfolk. A clearly
defined path showed where it traversed the parking lot
damaging cars along the way."

--Excerpt, Ray Haddad lies about Saving an Aircraft
Carrier from Hurricane http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu
</UNsnip!>

[ gekko's post starts here:]

"Note that to rip a huge tree out of the ground and hurl it
the length of a football field, especially with the drag of
'damaging cars along the way' before landing it on top of
his car, Haddad's Fantasy Hurricane would need the
strength of a CAT 5 hurricane: winds at *over* 155 MPH. "
-- Sylvia
..
I did not see a cite for that presumed fact,
<...>

I included a quote and a cite, but you snipped both. [ POOF! ] I've
restored the cited quote. Magic, doncha know. It's right up there ^ ,
preceding the paragraph of mine that you used for this thread. See? I
clearly wrote:

" --Excerpt, Ray Haddad lies about Saving an Aircraft
Carrier from Hurricane http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu "

The last bit, the " http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu " is a "link". I provide
those so folks can click on them (or copy/paste them into their browser)
and see the source I quoted--that would be the "cite" part.

I'll even cite the post you pulled that one paragraph of mine from since
you did not do so when you used it for this new thread:
http://tinyurl.com/32z9yw (SEPT 29 2007)

If you had searched, you would have found this post, where I show how
Steven/"fundoc" snipped the *same* quoted cite before he lied about what
wrote about Haddad (SEPT 10 2007):

* * * * BEGIN PARTIAL REPOST * * * *
Sylvia wrote:
..
Steve/"fundoc" (of the defunct basement music "band", the
appropriately named "Weasels"), posting at the moment as
"This is fun" <f...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Haddad didn't say a hurricane "struck" Norfolk.

Note how Steve/fundoc cut my quote of Ray Haddad saying just that:

<UNsnip!>
"When I got back, I discovered a tree had fallen smack
into the middle of my car which was parked over 100
yards from the tree on the base at Norfolk. A clearly
defined path showed where it traversed the parking lot
damaging cars along the way."

--Excerpt, Ray Haddad lies about Saving an Aircraft
Carrier from Hurricane http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu

</UNsnip!>

Note that to rip a huge tree out of the ground and hurl it the length of
a football field, especially with the drag of "damaging cars along the
way" before landing it on top of his car, Haddad's Fantasy Hurricane
would need the strength of a CAT 5 hurricane: winds at *over* 155 MPH.
* * * * END PARTIAL REPOST * * * * http://tinyurl.com/3xm8vy

And, I added the same quoted cite here because Jackson was basing his
opinion of what I said "according to fundoc", who, of course, ignored it
(SEPT 08 2007):

* * * * BEGIN PARTIAL REPOST * * * *

Sylvia wrote
"Jackson Pillock" wrote:
..
5. Do you still maintain that no hurricanes came near enough to Norfolk, VA,
during the time of Ray's claim of putting to sea to avoid one?
<...>
Unless the United States Government's National Oceanic & Atmospheric
Administration (my source) retracts its relevant hurricane reports,
my proof stands. Here's the exact cite I gave fundoc on May 8 in my
original thread about Ray Haddad's Hurricane Lie:

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/valate20hur.htm
<...>
"When I got back, I discovered a tree had fallen smack
into the middle of my car which was parked over 100
yards from the tree on the base at Norfolk. A clearly
defined path showed where it traversed the parking lot
damaging cars along the way."

--Excerpt, Ray Haddad lies about Saving an Aircraft
Carrier from Hurricane http://tinyurl.com/yo5gwu
<...>
Ray Haddad's fantasy hurricane was at least strong enough to rip a large
tree out of the ground and throw it one hundred yards.
<...>
I even labeled Virginia and Norfolk so geography-challenged peeps could
easily see that no hurricanes such as Haddad described came anywhere
near the state of Virginia, let alone directly striking Norfolk.
* * * * END PARTIAL REPOST * * * * http://tinyurl.com/2pwasw

Whereas the state of Arizona
<...>
And whereas there are also "gustnadoes",
<...>
Gusty winds
<snip more stuff having nothing to do with my paragraph relating
to The Mysterious Fantasy Hurricane That Ray Haddad Dare Not
Name or Date supposedly having struck Norfolk VA during the
1970's or about his Fantasy *Hurricane's* tree skipping>

An item being flung about in a wind storm, even as small as 5 lbs,
can inflict notable, insurance-collecting damage to a car,

<staring>

1) A large pebble flung off a Toys R Us truck goin', say, 45 mph ahead
of a car... on a Tuesday morning... can crack that car's windshield.

2) A pretty, 115 pound, tea drinking woman dressed in a stylish, short,
red and black dress and red heels stridin' across a bank's marble floor
in can, through the bottom surface area of those heels, exert a couple
of thousand psi, which can damage that marble floor, but a male teller
named Marvin who lives in the yellow house and smokes Lucky Strikes
ain't likely to even think about the floor.

3) A Norwegian mole infiltrating a lasagna garden in South Carolina can
dig over 250 feet of tunnel in a single night unless he has a petite
wireless laptop and likes to post to Usenet groups,

Who owns the zebra?

It is therefore feasible for a tree of undetermined size to be
uprooted, to be dragged or flung some distance and to inflict some
undetermined level of damage to more than one car-sized structure as
it goes.

A statement so vague that it could apply to a garden gnome (who lives in
the blue house and drinks coffee) under the force of a gorilla (who
smokes Pall Malls). Requisite Haddadian "ambiguous" weasel, mebbe?


Ray Haddad: "When I got back, I discovered a tree had fallen smack
into the middle of my car which was parked over
100 yards from the tree"

Miz Sylvia: " [<raising one petite eyebrow> A *three hundred*
foot tree fell on his car? Musta been one of
them rare Virginia Redwood trees. I woulda
thought such a tree fallin' over would have
smashed his car flat.]" [1]

I could even see a moderately sized tree being whipped along for 100
yards through a parking lot, scraping and denting as it goes,

<amused>

Ray Haddad: "on the base at Norfolk. A clearly defined path
showed where it traversed the parking lot
damaging cars along the way."

Miz Sylvia: " ['Traversed'? Sounds suspiciously as if the tree
had hippity-hopped across the parkin' lot. That's
one bizarre hurricane, doncha think? I mean,
hurricanes can knock over trees, and they can
uproot them and then throw them (really hard)
onto a roof or sumpthin', but I've never heard
of one skippin' trees across a parkin' lot,
whappin' cars here and there along the way.]" [1]

[ HINTS For Our Home Audience: Think "velocity". Think
"aerodynamics". Think "lift". Think "required mass of Haddad's Norfolk
VA tree if skipped across cars".]

only to be dropped when the wind shifted, across a car.

And after the wind shifted... what? The Mysterious Fantasy Hurricane
That Ray Haddad Dare Not Name or Date got bored and abandoned its tree
toy? It had a rule about not merrily skipping trees across cars for 300
feet when its powerful force was running North-South instead of
South-North (or whatever)?

Ray Haddad: "Before that, I considered myself immune to
damage from a hurricane as long as I was
inside my house."

Miz Sylvia: " [How stupid can ya get? Haddad sez he was livin'
on the coast of Virginia durin' the 1970's, and
yet he's totally clueless about the havoc
wrecked by (Category 5) Hurricane Camille just
in 1969. There would have still been a lot of
talk about Camille during VA's 1970's
hurricane seasons, and endless local newspaper
and TV shots of the damage it caused.]" [1]

[1] Excerpt, PROFILES IN <koff!> COURAGE: Haddad Saves
Aircraft Carrier from Hurricane! (NOT!) MAY 1 2007
http://tinyurl.com/yuxjgk
--
Sylvia

gekko: "I saw the Hurrican Dawn track and wondered about
it, since Dawn was headed straight toward Norfolk
as a Cat 1."

Miz Sylvia: "No. That's not Norfolk you saw Dawn heading straight
towards, but *North Carolina*, down where her state
line juts way out; *that* was the storm's direction
before turning East. Norfolk is in the state of
Virginia, and lies well to the NW of Cape Hatteras
(part of a barrier island which often functions as a
hurricane break for Northern NC, and for Virginia),
which didn't get hit itself, anyway.

"Your source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dawn_1972_track.png "

MAY 08 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3dpxz6
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Ray Haddad: "My usual habit in an emergency is to donate blood
immediately."

Mr. Hope: "Yes, so you tell us every fucking chance you get.

"Guess what, Ray. It's really nothing to get so
boastful about."

Josh Hill: "Hey, it's not every syphilitic who would ignore
his own suffering to make that sacrifice."

Ray Haddad: "Always a classy guy, this Dumbo character."
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Mr. Hope: "Guess what, Ray. It's really nothing to get so
boastful about."

Ray Haddad: "Why not? As a celebrity I support my causes and
that's one of them. If it motivates you to give
blood, good for the world.

"By golly, I do believe you're jealous!"

Mr. Pritchard: "Why await a disaster? Blood's always a valuable
commodity and always in short supply. I give
every 16 weeks and have done for years. Doesn't
make me a hero and certainly isn't something I
do help out in an emergency."

Ray Haddad: "I do the same, Steve. I mention it only to heighten
awareness of the need for blood donations during
a natural or man made disaster.

"If you tag me by deciding I'm a hero for doing
so, please remember the source of that tag. I
never stated I was a hero. I'm only doing my bit
as I see fit."

[GAG!] [NOTE: See: "Narcissistic Personality Disorder: RAY HADDAD,
A Case Study [Part I]" http://tinyurl.com/ytmgn3 ]
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