Re: Posters past

Dr Zen <freddyvessant@xxxxxxxxx> didn't ask about the significance
of the number 42 in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy series, but
DID present the following for evaluation in misc.writing:


On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:23:39 GMT, gekko
<gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dr Zen <freddyvessant@xxxxxxxxx> didn't ask about the significance
of the number 42 in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy series,
but DID present the following for evaluation in misc.writing:


On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:52:25 GMT, gekko
<gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dr Zen <freddyvessant@xxxxxxxxx> didn't ask about the
significance of the number 42 in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the
Galaxy series, but DID present the following for evaluation in
misc.writing:


On 28 Aug 2006 21:39:32 GMT, gekko
<gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Proving once and for all that redheads *do* have more fun, Dr
Zen <freddyvessant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
<iid4f2duo9cldluofaln1q0itnlpo5mlrh@xxxxxxx>...
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:10:57 +0800, Ray Haddad
<rhaddad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:41:00 +0200, I said, "Pick a card,
any card" and Alan Hope <not.alan.hope@xxxxxxxx> instead
replied:

Ray Haddad goes:

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:56:05 +0200, I said, "Pick a card,
any card" and Alan Hope <not.alan.hope@xxxxxxxx> instead
replied:
Ray Haddad goes:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:41:07 +0200, I said, "Pick a
card, any card" and Alan Hope <not.alan.hope@xxxxxxxx>
instead replied:
gekko goes:

If I call Alan Hope a "dark little monkey" I am not
insulting all of the blacks on the planet, nor even
one black. I am insulting Alan Hope with a specific
reference to an organ grinder's pet, and employing a
word that could refer to shade, or could refer to
spirit. I am insulting him by calling him small,
insignificant, and a performing beast.

This bears repeating one more time. That's why I left
it there, Alan. Keep dancing. Hold out your tin cup.

What a ludicrous claim. You use one word to qualify
"monkey" which does not refer to organ grinders or
performing silly dances. Of all the adjectives that
might, you choose one that doesn't say what you claim
you want to say. Instead it refers to colour.

What color is "dark" Alan?

Many colours are dark, Ray.

Exactly. Why did you choose it to mean color as opposed
to mood?

Why did you? You chose the words.

How you can pretend it refers to anything else
(including mood, in this context) is unfathomable.

People who understand the use of words don't have to
pretend, Alan.

Yes, and they know that using "dark" to describe a
concrete noun is not a comment on mood or attitude. If
you want to say the organ grinder's monkey has a dark
mood you'd need to phrase it differently, as anyone who
understands the use of words can see. If you want to get
across the idea that he's a little dancing monkey on a
chain the last word you'd use is "dark". It doesn't get
the notion across, you see, and you've provided not one
word that does.

All those words and "dark" still may be used to refer to
mood.

Not in this context.

So your pathetic excuse is shown to be a lie. No-one
with even a rudimentary grasp of English would believe
it. The one word to used to describe the monkey doesn't
communicate the idea you claim you wanted to
communicate.

Guess what, Alan? You claim to "understand" English and
cannot allow for an alternate definition being the one
selected by the writer.

You admitted that you wanted to describe the colour of
monkeys. The post has been quoted back at you. Why are you
ignoring it as if it didn't exist?

I did no such thing. Xen did that. Read my answer IN
CONTEXT one more time, mate. Then, wipe the egg from your
***.


Last time. No further repeats. No one mentioned colour
before you.

"dark" is not a colo[u]r.


Tell Ray.

I guess all these posts have been far too subtle for you.
Far, far too subtle. As stupid as Ray's posts are, they are
extraordinarily subtle.

Yeah yeah.




So you decide to take one of them literally and end up looking
stupid. You, a presumed editor.

"What color are monkeys usually? Dark, mate, dark."

Where did he answer the question he asked, Zen?

Is this what you and the haddad have worked out? *** me, that's
pathetic. It also ignores the context.

Does it?

How do you think I could answer that question? Are more than one
answer even possible?


If you had the brains you think you have, then yes. More than one
answer "are" possible.


--
gekko

A boss is a personal dictator appointed to those of us fortunate
enough to live in free societies. (from the Cynic's Dictionary)
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