Re: POLL -- Violence Against Women

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:19:16 -0000, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Steve Pritchard" <Steve_Pritchard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> instead
replied:

"Stan (the Man)" <skidNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:XMsEf.22$Zc4.18@xxxxxxxxxxx
Jumping in here to illustrate what I believe has already been pointed
out: Any establishment, that is open to the public, whether privately
or publicly owned, doesn't relinquish its rights to exclusion, even
of otherwise legal activities, simply by virtue of being open to the
public.

As an example, I offer Yankee Stadium (or, I believe, any other major
league ballpark). It is not only open to the public, but said public
has paid for the right to enter. Yet, all who enter are subject to a
body frisk for weapons and other contraband, such as alcoholic
beverages. The possession of either, although lawful outside the
Stadium, will result in the possessor being refused admittance.

To take it further, they may also refuse to allow you in if you're
carrying food. I imagine Bob wouldn't allow you into his restaurant
with your own food, either. Yet, what could be more legal than
carrying food? Think Bob would seat you at one of his tables if you
were shirtless or shoeless? Both are legally permissable outside his
publicly accessible restaurant.

A carpet layer may legally carry a carpet razor in every jurisdiction
in the country of which I'm aware. Let him try getting on a public
airline carrying one.

As a cop, I'm exempt from all concealed weapons laws in NYS and I'm
required to carry a gun while off duty. If Bob put up a sign stating
that all weapons, even those carried by cops, are prohibited in his
privately owned, yet publicly accessible restaurant, I must obey that
directive or, if he becomes aware that I'm carrying a gun, he may
have me legally ejected (he'd need a lot of help and weapons of his
own, of course).

Not all publicly owned places must be fully inclusive, either. A
court room is owned by and open to the public. Try getting into one
while carrying a licensed firearm. Think they're violating your 2nd
Amendment rights for refusing you entry? Think again.

The simple fact that a particular behavior is legal in public doesn't
guarantee you the right to engage in it in all public places, whether
privately owned or not.

I'll give 15-1 that Ray doesn't reply to this post.

You lost. I had a tenner on it. Pay up, mate.
--
Ray
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