Re: Unicornian Mathematics, Logic, and Whatever

With no regard for personal safety or the comfort of others, the Great
"Zero" <ShakubukuTime@xxxxxxx> blathered:

>Dr Zen wrote:
>
>> "Zero" <ShakubukuTime@xxxxxxx> blathered:
>
>[...]
>
>> >and before you waste all your precious time focussing on
>> >the "mysterious" inexorable numerical 3 thinger, try this:
>
>----------------------------- Q5
>
>> > IF 0 + 1 = 1
>> > AND 1 + 1 = 2
>> > AND 10 + 1 = 11
>> > AND 11 + 2 = 20
>> >
>> > THEN 1 + 2 = 22 is:
>> >
>> > a] True
>> > a] False
>> > c] Unable to Determine
>>
>> False.
>
>only due to employing your knowledge of Base Three Mathematics.
>

No, Zero. Because 11 + 2 = 20 AND 10 + 1 + 1 = 12.

I'm missing a step. See whether you can figure it out!

>otherwise, it would be: [c] Unable to Determine

No, sorry. You just don't get this, do you?

>> >and show your work, or get behind the monkey and the squirrel.
>>
>> You figure it out for yourself.
>
>Gawd.
>
>actually, this one would have been slightly more "challenging":
>
>----------------------------- Q6
>
> IF 0 + 1 = 1
> AND 1 + 1 = 2
> AND 10 + 1 = 11
> AND 11 + 2 = 20
>
> THEN 1 + 2 = 12 is:
>
> a] True
> a] False
> c] Unable to Determine
> d] Logical Cognitive Dissonance/y

False. And clearly so.

You do not need to know base 3 to know that it is, either.

Base 3 necessarily works because this works but the converse is not
necessary. That's the mistake you're making.

IF 1 + 1 = 10
AND 10 + 1 = 11
AND 11 + 1 = 100
THEN 10000001 + 1 = ?

You do not need to know anything about base 2 to know the answer.

Try this:

IF 1 + 1 = 10
AND 10 + 1 = 11
AND 11 + 1 = 100
AND 1 + 2 = 100

THEN 2 + 2 = 110

True or false?

>-----------------------------
>
>but nevertheless, let's move on, shall we?
>
>regarding Q2's "THEN 1 + 2 = 3 is", you chose "[c] Unable
>to Determine", and coyly asked moi if i could see why:

I've showed you why above. I took pity on you.

>
>
>> >> Surely you can see why?
>> >
>> >why you're ridiculously choosing "Unable to Determine"?
>> >yes. i can surely see why.
>> >
>> >> It's obvious enough.
>> >
>> >indeed.
>> >
>> >you're obligated to do so since you chose TRUE for Q1
>> >(claiming elsewhere that you did so because it there
>> >was some sort of inherent logic of "tens" which strangely
>> >enough you claimed was not really the logic of "threes")
>> >and you don't want to admit that you're fucked, logically
>> >speaking.
>>
>> *sigh* There is no "logic of tens".
>
>yes there is. one such is called Base Ten Mathematics.
>
>but you were relying on one of the "logic of threes" systems.
>
>Base Three Mathematics, specifically.

No. I am relying entirely on the assumptions you provided.

>
>
>> You showed in your assumptions what makes a figure take the
>> "ten" position. That is all.
>
>it's not a "tens" position. it's an X^1 numerical placeholder. duh.

Yes. In the common parlance we call it the "ten" because we use base
ten commonly.

>
>that X^1 placeholder thinger is common to all of those types of Bases.
>
>the "tens" position is not. but it's clear why you chose to "tens" it.

Yes, we commonly use base ten, and like most people, I learned to
count in units, tens and hundreds and call them that. I don't even
know what the proper word is for it. There's nothing in it more
sinister than that.

>
>anyway, allow me to show you just how utterly flipped out you have
>become over your totally inconsistent classical logic "methodologies."
>
>depending on your answers, this will take two or three posts.
>
>first, let's reque your flawed mathematical "logic" language:
>
>
>> You showed in your assumptions what makes a figure take the
>> "ten" position. That is all.
>
>um.... are these figures mysteriously "dancing" or something, Zennyboy?

No, they take different positions in a sequence. That's clear enough.

>
>regardless, armed with your flawed classical logic, you'll now attempt
>to determine the answer to Q7.
>
>----------------------------- Q7
>
>
> IF This + Is = This
>
> AND This + This = That
> AND ThisIs + This = ThisThis
> AND ThisThis + That = ThatIs
>
> THEN That + This = ThisIs is:
>
> a] True
> a] False
> c] Unable to Determine
> d] Logical Cognitive Dissonance/y
>
>
>good luck, as always.

It's fucking nonsense.

>
>----------------------------- Q8
>
>i'll present Q8 while you angrily shake the bars on your monkey cage
>seeking unearned bananas after trying to figure out the answer to Q7
>(and then witholding your alleged method for incorrectly "solving"
>it -- Booby Wayward would be proud).

Where's Q8?

>
>unless, of course, you pull your predictable "too bored to play
>anymore"
>bail out. place your bets.
>
>
>-$Zero... Cha'Ching!... $27.75... http://www.paypal.com
>
>
> "Odd and Even is the binary nature of infinity."
> -- $Zero...

No.

>
>
>-------------- Introducing Unicornian Mathematics/Logic: --------------
>
> (which explains how: 2 + 2 = 3 + 3 is logically possible)
>
>Base Ten
>
>1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9 1 3 5 7 9
> 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0 2 4 6 8 0
>
>Base Three
>
>1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0
> 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 0 2 1
>
>------------------------------- 0zk3-11 -------------------------------



Dr Zen
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to let go of the hand that has been
clinging by its thick country skin
to my yellow country teeth" -- Ounsworth
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