Re: Choice is the key
- From: "pandora" <pandora@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:12:21 -0700
"Josh Hill" <usereplyto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:18:49 -0700, "pandora" <pandora@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >"Josh Hill" <usereplyto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> Huh? Do you know how long it takes to burn off 1200 calories?!? That
> >> bag of potato chips is twice what you eat in an entire day -- and I've
> >> demolished many a bag of potato chips.
> >
> >But you see, there's part of the problem right there. You don't NEED to
> >demolish the entire bag of chips. A handful is all that is necessary.
I've
> >never eaten an entire bag of chips in a day; never! And I don't ever
intend
> >to.
>
> You have self-control and knowledge. I bet that if you asked many
> people how many calories there were in a bag of potato chips and how
> it compared to, say, a potato, they wouldn't be able to tell you. And
> you don't have to eat an entire bag of them to throw your diet out of
> kilter.
I don't normally eat them at all; very rarely as a matter of fact.
> >> The role of exercise in weight loss is overrated. I posted some
> >> figures here on the exercise it takes to counteract caloric intakes of
> >> this magnitude earlier, and it ain't gonna happen, unless you're in
> >> training for the Olympics or hiking around in Iraq. And most people
> >> don't gain wait by eating an extra 1200 calories a day -- they gain it
> >> by eating just a few extra calories a day.
> >
> >True enough, however, it is necessary to cut back on the caloric intake
> >along with and including upping one's exercise level. It takes both.
>
> I know that's what's usually said, but I've never been convinced of
> that. The gains from practical amounts of exercise are slight, and
> your appetite increases when you become active. Are there any studies
> that compare the long-term outlook for people who diet alone with
> people who are told to exercise as well?
I'm sure there are. There are studies to prove,......whatever one wants to
prove. Exercise is always a good idea, IMO, whether or not it takes any
weight off. And with my own frustration at trying to lose weight and not
succeeding, I don't really *believe* in ANY program at all. None. Or I
haven't found the right combination for me. Which could be the case with
others. I contend that staying slim isn't a case, always, of following a
certan regimen that works for everyone. It doesn't. Maybe it's voodoo.
Who knows.
> >> "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen and six,
> >> result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure
> >> twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
> >>
> >> These foods subvert our natural appetite control mechanisms. They're
> >> hard to resist so we eat even when we're full, and we can ingest a lot
> >> of them before the brain gets satiety signals.
> >
> >We tend to eat comfort foods when we need comfort. Work on not needing
them
> >and you can help yourself eat less/need less of them.
>
> Kind of hard when you face the pressures faced by some in the ghetto.
Indeed. Or other places for that matter. But people who don't live in a
ghetto have access to other means of a) releasing the stress and b) taking
the weight off (personal trainers, surgery, etc.)
> I read an interesting article a few years ago about what happens when
> poor people move to safer surroundings -- in some cases they can go
> off blood pressure medication.
That certainly makes sense to me. Less stress, less meds needed.
> Also, stuff happens . . . My stepmother gained 30 pounds in the year
> after my father died. Took her another year to lose it.
Lucky her! I've been working on getting rid of 30 extra pounds for 3 years
now. It won't get off me.
> And some people seem to be raised to rely on food for emotional
> support. I think they have the hardest time of all -- if I were to
> generalize, I'd say that they're the ones who would be overweight even
> if there weren't an obesity epidemic. The conditioning so deep that
> it's extraordinarily difficult for them to change their behavior. I've
> known some of these people since they were kids -- their parents were
> always pushing food on them.
Possibly. I know that forcing kids to clean up their plates is NOT a good
idea.
> >I've never been in a situation where I needed to gain weight; always the
> >opposite. It seems that even if I eat salads and veggies and fruits, I
> >maintain or gain weight. So much for a super metabolism. I eat very few
> >grains if at all.
>
> That has to be frustrating.
Yep. Although I'm starting to get used to being this fatter/older person.
Perhaps, as my daughter says, it's all to help keep me alive longer. Who
knows. I sure don't.
Marg
> --
> Josh
>
> "You know I could run for governor but I'm basically
> a media creation. I've never done anything. I've
> worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But
> that's not the kind of profile you have to have
> to get elected to public office." - George W. Bush
.
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