Re: [JOSHIDIOCY] Josh's Idiocy
- From: Josh Hill <usereplyto@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 20:38:28 -0400
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:21:17 GMT, gekko
<gekko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Josh Hill <usereplyto@xxxxxxxxx> yttret omtrent noe slikt:
>
>
>> Oh, uh, right, it's "spin and deceit" to compare a refined opiate
>> to refined sugars and fats.
>
>Yes it is. Are you familiar with what "spin" is, Josh? And deceit?
>
>>
>> These substances trigger similar dopamine reward pathways, Gekko.
>
>Very nice. So what?
>
>> It is the same mechanism -- indeed, one of the primary functions
>> of that mechanism is in causing the behaviors that lead to food
>> consumption.
>
>Josh, sugar triggers the reward center whether it's refined or not,
>and, in fact, is the state to which _all_ food is processed once
>you've consumed it.
Right, and so do opioids and cocaine and any number of substances
which are harmless when consumed in small quantities and dangerously
addictive when consumed in purified form. Which is to say that you
will not become a junkie from the natural opioids in cow's milk -- but
they will help you sleep at night.
The dopamine pathways and the mechanisms that balance appetite have an
important function. But we didn't evolve to deal with frequent, large
doses of purified sugars and the like. Foods that contain them can be
unnaturally rewarding and tempting. They are quite likely addictive.
And they bypass the natural appetite suppression mechanism.
Bottom line: It is next to impossible to get fat eating the foods our
distant ancestors did in the quantities that were available to them,
and it is for many of us difficult not to get fat eating the foods we
eat today.
--
Josh
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