Re: A REAL warning to new posters

You may add me to your list of people who don't like stupid people.

Thanks, Dave


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> | Roger Wittekind & The Flaming FAQ
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> | A Safety Guide for New Readers of
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> o-------------o
> | Definitions
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> MTT = Misc.Transport.Trucking - A Usenet group in which the troll
> Roger Wittekind posts regularly.
>
> Tinyurl = A linking service I use when posting website links so that
> the link is easy to remember, and doesn't break because of length. (You
> will see it often in this FAQ). Links to posts, websites, and
> information pertaining to a section will be contained in an ASCII
> graphic -=> link <=- . This is just to let you know that the information
> contained in this FAQ is not only true, but is backed by 3rd party
> information (which will usually be posts by Roger himself, as ironic as
> that sounds).
>
> Troll = A person who spends time trolling Newsgroups. In this case,
> Roger Wittekind
>
> Trolling = (as defined by Rogers Newsgroup Provider, giganews.com):
> Trolling is the practice of maliciously trying to incite others that use
> a newsgroup, to deviate from the stated topic of the group. In other
> words, trolling is an attempt to anger others to the point of drawing
> them into an argument or an off topic debate.
>
> o--------------------------------------------o
> | BEFORE WE BEGIN THIS IS MUST READ MATERIAL
> o--------------------------------------------o
> Before we begin with the Questions and Answers, there is one very
> important tip to keep in mind when dealing with Roger Wittekind, and
> must be explained to protect innocent people from the mind of this madman.
>
> * NEVER READ PRIVATE EMAIL SENT DIRECTLY FROM ROGER WITTEKIND'S PC!
>
> This could be fatal to your personal computer system. On Nov 28, 2005,
> Roger admitted to reading several emails that were sent to him that were
> actually carriers of an unnamed virus (More than likely, Roger never
> mentioned the name of the virus because he was making the story up so
> that someone would write to him in MTT. However, this is not a risk
> worth taking... ONLY accept mail from him that is sent from public mail
> servers (Yahoo, HotMail, etc.) as these services have online virus
> scanners.) If you receive an email addressed from something to the email
> name of the effect of wookie@xxxxxxx, do not open it, do not preview it,
> simply delete it. His personal email (much like him) cannot be trusted.
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/d2lpo <=-
>
> =============================NOW THE FUN BEGINS!========================
>
> This is a 'Search Active' Text File:
> The Questions and Answers Contents of this FAQ is Search active, for
> example:
>
> If you want to search for the first question, you can high light the
> label [Q001] (including the brackets) in the table of contents, with
> your mouse, and use the find next function of your text reader/editor
> and you will be taken to that Question/Answer.
>
> Questions/Answers
>
> [Q001] Who is Roger Wittekind?
> [Q002] What does Roger Wittekind look like?
> [Q003] How do you know that picture is of him?
> ****** Dissect the answer to Question 1
> [Q4a1] You said he is a Beatles Fan. How do you know that?
> [Q4a2] Who the hell is Kyu Sakamoto?
> [Q4a3] How many other names has he used?
> [Q4b1] Isn't that against the rules of his newsgroup provider?
> [Q4b2] How can someone report him to his ISP/NG provider?
> [Q4c1] How does he surf the internet if he's in a truck all day?
> [Q4c2] How does he find time to take pictures while driving?
> [Q4d1] WHOA, isn't that dangerous?
> [Q4d2] Doesn't he care if he kills someone?
> [Q4d3] Hasn't anyone told him how dangerous this is?
> [Q4d4] Well, he had to have stopped doing that by now, right?
> [Q4e1] What's wrong with keeping a personal online journal?
> [Q4e2] What kind of moron would use a Usenet NG as Blog Space?
> [Q005] Other Roger related questions
> [Q501] Is Roger Wittekind a good employee?
> [Q006] Why not just ignore him?
> [Q007]
> o-----------------------------------------------------o
> Q) Who is Roger Wittekind? [Q001]
>
> A) Roger is a resident of the Great State of Illinois (hey, lets not
> blame them for where he lives). He makes his money by (allegedly)
> sitting in a truck all day. His hobbies include jogging, marathon
> running (he finished 227th out of 316 participants in the 2004 "CornBelt
> Runners Club" event, yeah I know funny name, but hey, again, gotta keep
> focused on the task on hand) , listening to classic rock like the
> Beatles, Kyu Sakamoto, and surfing the internet. Also in this list, you
> must add: Participating in Usenet discussions, taking pictures, keeping
> a personal journal online for friends to read about his daily life, and
> basically sharing his life with anyone interested.
>
> Question 1 Source:
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/9byn9 <=-
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/a47s4 <=-
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/awgl6 <=-
>
>
> o-----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) What does Roger Wittekind look like? [Q002]
>
> A) You can find a picture of Roger Wittekind participating in a marathon
> at the following link: -=> http://tinyurl.com/cnkvv <=-
>
> o-----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) How do you know that picture is of him? [Q003]
>
> A) Two Reasons:
> 1) He verified it in the last paragraph of this link:
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/afaku <=-
> (There is a link in that post to a photoshoped image of Roger that has
> been removed from the image host servers... Apparently Roger doesn't
> understand humor.)
>
> 2) The way I verified it originally is explained at this link:
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/c33v4 <=-
>
> o-----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) You said he is a Beatles fan. How do you know that? [Q4a1]
>
> A) Well, it is just a guess; an educated guess based on posts that he
> made beginning on November 12, 2005. On that date he began using the
> Name George Harrison, and hoped that everyone in the Newsgroup would
> somehow be confused into thinking that he (George Harrison) was in fact
> someone other than Roger. He began defending his old posts (as Roger)
> and eventually he could no longer keep up with his lies and had to out
> himself on this screen name. -=> http://tinyurl.com/dx75w <=-
>
> o----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) Who the hell is Kyu Sakomoto? [Q4a2]
>
> A) In a desperate attempt to try a second time to be someone important,
> he began to used a dead Japanese singer's name (so for a second time he
> committed Identity Theft, and tried to convince everyone that he was not
> in fact himself). His most famous song titled "Sukiyaki" opens with the
> line: "I look up when I walk" (Which is way different from how Roger
> drives, as I'll explain Later)... and ends with the phrase: "For tonight
> I'm all alone" Which describes Roger perfectly... now and forever as far
> as regular participants of MTT are concerned. -=>
> http://tinyurl.com/ax86t <=-
>
> o----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) How many other names has he used? [Q4a3]
>
> A) As of November 16, 2005 at 10:13 PM (MST) it has been verified that
> he has been caught changing his screen name 79 Times in the past two
> years in a desperate attempt to design an online personality that will
> be accepted by others in MTT. And in that same time period, he has
> changed his email address 36 times in an effort to get around filters
> (Kill files) that people have put in place in an effort to ignore the
> drivel that he posts. This brings the total to 115 names in a time
> period of about 2 years.
>
> There have recently been more names added to this list. The list can be
> found online at: -=> http://tinyurl.com/dnwkp <=- it is occasionally
> updated by someone who does drive a truck for a living and maintains it
> when time allows (okay it's me, and I've been busy because of the silly
> season... I'll get back to it in January).
>
> Of these 115 Name changes... 3 have been of famous people (Kyu Sakamoto,
> George Harrison, and author William Golding) as well as 6 email clones
> of regular posters of MTT (these include the regular MTT posters:
> tscottme, Brian Smith, Troublemaker, Zeke, and Walker). This could
> easily constitute Identity Theft if a prosecutor would take interest in
> this criminal.
>
> o----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) Isn't that against the rules of his newsgroup provider? [Q4b1]
>
> A) At the VERY LEAST, it is a violation of his Newsgroup provider (NG),
> and of his Internet Service Provider (ISP) terms of service that he has
> read and agreed to (according to sign up procedures at both parties
> websites).
>
> o----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) How can someone report him to his NG/ISP provider? [Q4b2]
>
> A) Send email to: abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (ISP)
> Complaining to his NG provider is a little tricky. First you have to
> find a post that violates his Terms Of Service (TOS) Agreement. Then you
> have to find out which NG he used to post that message from. He uses
> ATT, SuperNews, Giganews, and Google Groups. There have probably been
> others... but the addresses for the ones I have listed are:
>
> abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx TOS at -=> http://tinyurl.com/bge66 <=-
> abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx TOS at -=> http://tinyurl.com/c8vnb <=-
> abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx TOS at -=> http://tinyurl.com/c74hd <=-
> giganews.com also has a AUP at -=> http://tinyurl.com/a3rmn <=-
> groups-abuse@xxxxxxxxxx TOS at -=> http://tinyurl.com/ddbd3 <=-
>
> In order to find out which NG he used, you have to view the entire
> message header of the post you find offensive (or illegal). Send the
> entire message (Including the entire header) to the NG provider along
> with your complaint, and to make life easier, a link to their TOS or
> user agreement specifying the violation that Roger committed in that
> particular post. One complaint probably won't amount to much, but if
> several posters complain about several posts by Roger, this action may
> have the desired effect that MTT regulars want to have happen (NG/ISP
> black listing of Roger from Usenet).
>
> o------------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) How does he surf the internet if he's in a truck all day? [Q4c1]
>
> A) This question is really in here for the uninitiated. When (IF) he's
> out on the road, he more than likely uses his cell phone to call into
> his provider, or else he uses a wireless card to gain access to a Wi-Fi
> hotspot. (Either legally or not)This of course means that he either ends
> his driving day VERY early to guarantee good parking for good cell or
> Wi-Fi Coverage, or he's lying about being out on the road as often as he
> claims. And as with the prior question... if you find something he does
> offensive while on these Wi-Fi providers, and if you can figure out
> which Wi-Fi provider he is using... You could then find the TOS, point
> out the errors of his ways to those in charge and try to get him removed
> from these providors as well.
>
> o---------------------------------------------------------o
>
>
> Q) One of his hobbies is photography, I have that same interest! But, I
> drive truck, how does he find time to take pictures while out on the
> road I never have time. [Q4c2]
>
> A) I have the exact same problem... I have several SLR, Digital, and
> Video cameras that I have, at times, taken on the road with me. Now days
> I only take my Palm Zire72 (which includes a Digital Cam with 1.25 Gig
> of storage) and I never have time to stop and take a decent picture...
> Now take a moment to look at everything I wrote after the Parenthesis...
> and try to figure it out [insert jeopardy music here]... He takes
> pictures while the truck is in motion, while he is driving, down the
> highway, down residential roads, in parking lots... whatever works for
> him... as long as he gets the shot. Now a LOT of people would not be
> able to believe this kind of action from a professional driver who has
> safety in mind at all times... well, congratulations... this is the
> question that explains why most people have a problem with Roger. He's a
> danger to the general public whenever he gets behind the wheel. His
> actions will eventually get someone (hopefully no one beside the person
> responsible) killed. It is NOT a question of if...only of when.
>
> Now you might be thinking that I am making this up... I wish I was...
> but here is a link to Rogers website... there is no guarantee that this
> link will be around for very long... but the link shows a large amount
> of pictures that he has taken, and he is happy to host on his personal
> web space provided by his ISP:
>
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/8mlhh <=-
>
>
> And just to keep this FAQ's integrity... I have made a screen grab of
> the page, and will put that screen grab up when Roger takes his odd and
> ends page down in a feeble attempt to cover his stupidity with lies
> about how he didn't take pictures while driving, and there is no proof
> of him comiting this dangerous deed.
>
> o---------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) WHOA! Isn't that dangerous? [Q4d1]
>
> A) Absolutely! If you take a peak at the 6th Picture in the above link,
> He's got a pic of his digital gauge reading 58 MPH. Which means that
> while driving at 58 MPH, he got his cam out, Stared at the display,
> which was looking at the dash, played with the distance and the angle of
> the cam until the display was easily legible, and snapped the shot, all
> the while driving down the road, paying NO attention to where he was
> going, or who was near his vehicle. Picture 10, same thing (but at LEAST
> the cam is looking out the window). As well as the bottom photo of this
> page of his site:
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/db5uq <=-
> As well as the second photo of -=> http://tinyurl.com/9j5mu <=- (again
> of his site) let?s not forget the 3rd image on -=>
> http://tinyurl.com/cpv4d <=- And ALL 12 photos located at:
> http://tinyurl.com/clcmz Want more?? Roger thinks so... that's why there
> is another example of him not watching where he is going found in the
> bottom photo of his page located at -=> http://tinyurl.com/bcehv <=- and
> both pictures at
> -=> http://tinyurl.com/dy4v4 <=-.
> o----------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) Doesn't he care if he kills someone? [Q4d2]
>
> A) Nope... he's answer is simple... Shut up and drive your own truck.
> He'll go off on tangents that have nothing to do with the fact that his
> actions are going to get someone killed. That he is going to destroy the
> lives of people he doesn't know. He suffers from a separation from Human
> Emotion that can only be described by experts in the field of psychology.
> Source: -=> http://tinyurl.com/798n6 <=-
>
> o-----------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) Hasn't anyone told him how dangerous this is? [Q4d3]
>
> A) Oh I'm sure I could name a few names here: gashauler, Scott, gpsman,
> Dave Smith, Topper, realitytrucker, Troublemaker, Top, Mail Hauler,
> Brian Smith, Walker, Joyce, Night Rogue, Skateboard'n, CARAZEEEEEEE
> KUJO, Alpha, TurboTrucker, Zeke, Pop-N-Fresh, DTJ, Just to name a few...
> at one time or another. If you aren't on the list but you have told
> him... Let me know, I'll add ya. This also happens to be a list of the
> people that he claims he doesn't read posts from any more... And
> according to a post by Top, this is also a list of the people that make
> up approximately 90% of the posts of MTT. And somehow this moron feels
> that he is wanted here. The only people that write anything to him of
> substance are the people who don't know who Roger is.
>
> And that is who this FAQ is directed to... the people that don't know
> who Roger is, or how dangerous he is. There are three distinct ways on
> how to deal with Roger... Later we will discuss the three methods, and
> why people think one will work over the others.
>
> o-------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) If all those people have told him, he might not admit defeat, but
> surely he had to have gotten the message, and stopped by now...
> right? [Q4d4]
>
> A) On November 20, 2005 (2 years after the fact), he is still at it and
> boasting about it. There is an entire thread that was started where he
> boasted taking 100 photographs as he stared at his camera for 3 minutes
> while traveling at 65 MPH all the while he was firing off shots...
>
> That thread can be found at -=> http://tinyurl.com/bptc8 <=- If you read
> the thread he see no problem at ALL with what he does... he even
> complains about how everyone except for him is concerned about the
> safety of others.
>
> o----------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) You mentioned that he keeps a personal online journal, writing about
> things that happens to him during ordinary days, Days that most people
> that don't know him would find boring, and that people that don't like
> him would have absolutely no interest in reading... who cares if he
> keeps a Blog somewhere on the net? [Q4e1]
>
> A) Wow it would be nice if he kept his little personal life on some
> unheard of site somewhere... but from the message links I have already
> provided... it should be apparent by now... he is using MTT as his own
> personal Blog. About twice a week, he'll start posting some drivel about
> what boring thing he has been doing, like he is the only one qualified
> to handle such situations... These situations that I'm speaking of would
> include: Having 3 months experience, Having 13 weeks experience, Having
> 14 weeks experience, having 14.4 weeks, having 15 weeks experience,
> being only 70 days shy of having 6 months experience, being 69 days shy
> of having 6 months experience, being 68 days shy of 6 months... Do you
> get the picture yet? You're probably saying the same thing... Why would
> anyone care to read how much experience he has...? NO ONE CARES!
>
> OH... if you think I'm kidding about all those posts... here's the links:
>
> Rookie with 12 weeks -=> http://tinyurl.com/bv4ob <=-
> Rookie with 13 weeks and holding -=> http://tinyurl.com/aoml4 <=-
> Rookie with 14 w -=> http://tinyurl.com/cyxs8 <=-
> Rookie with 14.4 weeks -=> http://tinyurl.com/92u8w <=-
> Rookie with 15 weeks -=> http://tinyurl.com/czbzm <=-
> Rookie with 27 in 12 -=> http://tinyurl.com/eyjey <=-
> Rookie with 6m in 63 days -=> http://tinyurl.com/amon2 <=-
> Ricky Rookie with 6m in 68 days -=> http://tinyurl.com/8bn34 <=-
> Rookie with 6m in 69 days -=> http://tinyurl.com/9heub <=-
> Rookie with 6m in 70 days -=> http://tinyurl.com/ara4u <=-
> Rookie with 6m in 74 days -=> http://tinyurl.com/77c6h <=-
> Rookie with 27w in 81d -=> http://tinyurl.com/9wkso <=-
>
> o-------------------------------------------------o
>
> Q) What kind of moron would use a Usenet Newsgroup as their own personal
> Blog site? Only a moron would think that every user (Or any user) of
> Usenet cares how long he can hold onto a job, or when he changed
> a tire? [Q4e2]
>
> A) Well if you really need an answer to the question of who would do
> that sort of thing... you need to go back to the top of this FAQ and
> start reading again...
>
> o--------------------------------------------------o
> [Q005] Other Roger Questions
> These questions have been asked about Roger, and answered by other
> posters of MTT:
> Q) Is Roger Wittekind a good employee? [Q501]
>
> A) No. He has problems dealing with co-workers. During his short
> employment with Mansur Trucking he had a couple of major run-ins with
> fellow workers and bosses. Just after a few weeks on the job he felt
> that he knew more than the Maps and Fuel girl Judy and ended up hanging
> the phone up on her while she was giving directions which lead to a
> conflict to where there was friction between the office and him. He went
> to extremes trying to prove his point even calling the owner on a Sunday
> complaining that Judy does not listen to him. He feels that since he's
> the one that requires the information he can dictate to the office that
> his needs are the most important. He received a warning from the company
> on his dealings with Judy.
>
> Source: http://tinyurl.com/c8ubx
> Origionaly posted by: gashauler
>
> Q) Why not just ignore him, and live your life? [Q006]
>
> A) This question has come up time and time again in MTT on how to deal
> with Roger Wittekind. And the solution to how to get rid of him seems to
> have three possibilities with only 1 being the correct one:
>
> 1) Just ignore him. People will tell you that it's been done before and
> that he has left... in short it works...if it works, why is he back? Why
> did he return? The problem that the author of this FAQ has with this
> approach is: If he is still posting, he's still here... He feels no
> threat from the people that don't confront him. so it's no big deal, and
> means nothing if a few regulars (or all the regulars) ignore him... the
> new posters will talk to him, not knowing who he really is, and if he
> has an audience of one that may agree with him (Due to a lack of
> knowledge) it's good enough.
>
> 2) Go to the ISP/NG providers and report him (over and over again). Nice
> idea... but unless we get a majority of the regulars doing this on a LOT
> of his posts... it will have little effect. Even Roger is finding this
> out. Quite simply, Roger pays his ISP and NG costs... and as long as
> they get their money, they are happy... he won't be going anywhere
> anytime soon with this route, unless they just get overwhelmed by
> complaints and dump them just to end the headache. This requires
> planning and coordination that people who follow plan 1 won't abide by.
>
> 3) Confront EVERY POST HE MAKES. This is my approach. Get a tagline, and
> use it often... even if it's all you got to reply with. Make him so
> uncomfortable that he's doesn't want to post because of the onslaught of
> replies he knows he'll get. If he posts a lie, drive it home like you're
> using a Louisville slugger. If he changes his screen name... call him
> out immediately... that way the newbie?s and less informed will know of
> his antics. If he commits some sort of fraud on the NG... Call it out
> with all the proof. Nothing is too small, everything is MAJOR... He
> won't want to post... This is the one that seems to be working... he
> posted recently that he doesn't read or will reply to the people that
> constitutes approx. 60% of the content of MTT. If we keep it up, he'll
> start to think that there is no reason to read today?s posts... and
> tomorrows, and after a while he'll be a memory... and when he pops
> back... EVERY ONE must slam him back under the rock he hides in.
>
>
> [Q007] Thanks
> Thanks goes to every one that has ever called Roger out on his lies, and
> on his posts that suggest driving in a dangerous fashion, or in Rogers
> attempts to takover of the entire newsgroup as his own personal blog.
> And special thanks to gashauler who has dealt with and taken more abuse
> from Roger than anyone else in this NG (myself included), and continues
> to this day to show everyone who comes here that Roger is a danger not
> only to himself, but to society as a whole.
>
>
> -=>Topper<=-
> --
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> Discuss MTT at http://discussmtt.blogspot.com/
>
> The Email address attached to this post is NEVER checked. Reply in NG
>


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