Re: Formal Call for Discussion

topper wrote: <brevity snips>
> Attached to this post is the draft of the Posting FAQ for
> misc.transport.trucking
>
> Let me know what you think, what changes need to be done with it, anyway
> to improve it...
>
> [Q002] Who is this newsgroup for?
> Answer: This newsgroup is for anyone that has an interest in discussing
> topics related to the trucking industry. More specifically this would
> include:

- "More specifically this would include...:" - sounds "standoffish" to
me. I suggest something like - This includes but is not limited
to....
>
> People who have an interest in becoming a trucker
> Current Truckers
> Retired Truckers
> Dispatchers
> Law Enforcement
> Owner/Operators
> Load Brokers
> Mechanics
> Business Owners who depend on trucks, and the trucking industry
> Family members of any of the above mentioned people
> snip <

> [Q003.4] What about trucking related organizations?
>
> Answer: Organizations like the Teamsters, American Trucking Association,
> OOIDA, LOADS, PATT, CRASH, et al, advertise heavily in the trade
> magazines (the freebies found at truck stops, as well as the ones that
> cost money), as well as on trucking related websites. Some of these
> organizations (ATA, PATT and CRASH) are very controversial to truckers
> in nature, and the mere mention of them could easily spark a flame war
> that would be hard to extinguish. For these reasons, and also in an
> effort of keeping with the spirit of the original FAQ of mtt, they are
> not allowed to advertise on mtt.

- I don't think any mention of a group is in order in the above. I,
especially, would like to see participation from any trucking related
organization, pro or con. To suggest we don't want opinions we might
not like seems a little closed-minded. Controversy? Bring it on, I
say.

> [Q004] What other type of posting is not allowed?
> Answer: HTML/Binary posting, Trolling, Blogging, and anything that
> violates ISP/NG TOS agreements.

- I've read some FAQ's that suggest that extended conversations be
taken to email.

> [Q004.1] HTML/Binary Posting
> Posting HTML and/or binary is absolutely not allowed in MTT for three
> reasons.

- It's an incompatible format is the only reason needed for either.
Doesn't work, waste of time and resources.

> First, mtt is, and has always been a text only newsgroup, in keeping
> with the charter of mtt, this rule will not be changed.
>
> Second, html/binary uses large amounts of bandwidth. Posting html and
> binary makes your posts larger than they should be for the information
> that they contain. Some internet service providers (ISP) that truckers
> have available to them while on the road (For example: Flying J's Wi-Fi
> Hotspots) only allow for a certain amount of information to be
> downloaded per session. Once the session limit is reached, the user of
> that service is either cut off, or must pay additional costs to maintain
> his/her connection.
>
> Third, some ISP's and NG providers, in an effort to curb software
> piracy, have stopped carrying newsgroups that allow posting of binary
> information.
>
> We want mtt to be available to anyone, anywhere, at anytime, and for
> these reasons, HTML/binary is an absolute violation of this newsgroup.
>
> [Q004.2] Trolling
> The best definition I have found for what tolling is was found on the
> Terms of Service (TOS) agreement for Giganews.com which states:
>
> Trolling is the practice of maliciously trying to incite others that use
> a newsgroup, to deviate from the stated topic of the group. In other
> words, trolling is an attempt to anger others to the point of drawing
> them into an argument or an off topic debate.
>
> Trolling occurs all too often on newsgroups, and often enough on mtt to
> become the biggest problem mtt has. It tends to spark very nasty flame
> wars in which the only apparent way to get rid of the war is to get rid
> of the troll. Getting rid of a troll is a completely different matter
> which will not be discussed in this FAQ.

- Trolling is discouraged as is biting. If we have no recourse against
trolls I think it's best to say as little as possible about it.
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All I got patience for right now... Hope it helps a little.
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gpsman

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