Re: Are Ethanol and Biodiesel really the way to go?


"gashauler" <swordfish2@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Scott you're right about the energy with Ethanol and I think that E-85
would
> be a big mistake. But what's on the table right now is the problem with
> oxygenates that is blended with reformulated gasoline. There's only a few
> choices that the refiners can use and most popular are MTBE or Ethanol.
The
> oil companies what to use MTBE because that's a petroleum product and it's
> easier to send through a pipeline and they make money on it. The
> environmental people want to use Ethanol because MTBE has become a large
> drinking water contaminate.
>
> California has outlawed the use of MTBE and all of the gasoline sold
> contains Ethanol. 6 moutns after rollout MTBE was found in the drinking
> water at many locations. Underground storage tanks leak and the MTBE has
> very good migratory qualities so you can see there a big problem.
>
> So the way you look at it is from a consumers point of view and want more
> power for the buck and the other side is looking at it in a way to protect
> the people that drink the water.
>
>

The next big question is does adding oxygenates really do any good? I have
my doubts. I suspect if they looked at the total work done vs. the amount
of pollution produced with normal gasoline vs. oxygenated fuel they would
probably find not much difference as to keep the car going at the same speed
you need to burn more of the stuff. I believe that this is directly
proportional to the mileage reduction burning oxygenated fuel.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?


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