Re: Stopped on the interstate today


"topper" <topper4125@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> White Trailer Trash wrote:
>> topper- Are you a member of CRASH or PATT??? Just asking dont get upset.
>
> Nope, not a member of either... but I am a member a OOIDA if that helps.
>
>> Rocky made the right choice here, even if his logs wasnt up to date.
>
> I don't see how his logs have anything to do with this... but if Rocky had
> advanced notice of the the problem ahead (which he admitted to), and had
> enough visibility to see the situation (which he admitted to). Then there
> is no reason for him to stop in the lane... Absolutely none. I have been
> in situations where law enforcement has stopped traffic because of a
> wreck... he made no mention of law enforcement at the scene. I have been
> in situations where the weather was sever enough for me to stop somewhere,
> but never in the middle of the road. He can't make a claim that he wasn't
> able to see far enough forward that he couldn't make out where the
> shoulder was... he was able to count cars, look at a wreck, and marvel at
> the awesome view of the situation.
>
>> If he
>> was rear ended the person hitting him was at fault, just as if Rocky
>> would
>> have hit someone else, the point is that his decision kept him from a
>> accident not created one.
>
> Wrong. If the fault would be placed upon the person who had caused the
> rear end accident to happen. It's not a case of following too closely.
> In cases where a vehicle is following too closely, then the person who was
> FOLLOWING is a fault.
>
> Rocky's story is a case of placing an object in the middle of a road way
> without concern of other motorists. in this case, a truck, and according
> to everyone but Rocky... it was placed there when visibility was so low,
> that drivers of vehicles were not able to see 20 feet in front of them.
>
>> my point here....
>> 6 years ago a driver from Iowa was in Ohio making a perfectly legal left
>> turn and was rear ended by a man with 4 kids in the car, he was (the man
>> driving the car) wearing his seat belt but his children was not. The
>> truck
>> driver went to jail because his logs were not up to date and "He wasnt
>> supposed to be there". The man driving the car walked scott free (no pun
>> intended).
>
> 1) was the driver turning his left turn to find a place to park for the
> night because he was out of hours?
>
> 2) was the car speeding? Driver Drunk? Time of day and weather conditions
> would be nice... but if conditions were clear... the driver with the 4
> kids caused the accident. Being out of hours should only count in "at
> fault" accidents (IE: if the truck driver rear ended the car)
>
>> It is because of legalistic thinking like yours topper that
>> placed that driver behind bars.
>
> There is not enough information for your story to make any assumptions
> like that... but from what I have read. the guy with kids should have
> gotten at LEAST 9 tickets. 1 for the wreck 4 Failure to use seat belts,
> and 4 Child endangerment.
>
> I'm not saying that the truck driver shouldn't have gotten a ticket, but
> he (going by what you wrote) was NOT at fault, nor was he the cause of the
> wreck.
>
>> Now tell the truth, either your a member of
>> CRASH
> Nope. They are a group of people that think that split speed limits are a
> good thing...
>
> Let me put it another way:
> They think that vehicles driving slower than the rest of the flow of
> traffic is a good thing. (for example 0 MPH in a 55 MPH zone)
>
> Let me put it another way:
> They think like you do. They think that slowing your vehicle down to a
> stand still is not a safety issue (just like you)... Admit it... you like
> the ideas that come from the idiots. Are you a card carrying member?
>
>> or PATT,
> Nope
>> a cop,
> Not with my youthful indescretioins.
>> dot officer,
> That was almost funny.
>> or your brain washed,
> Am I brainwashed because I think that people who stop their vehicles in
> the middle of the road during rain storms is a bad thing?
>
> Am I brainwashed because I think that people driving FAR below the flow of
> normal traffic causes a dangerous situation? (Which was exactly what he
> was doing.. he was doing 0 MPH on a road that had a posted speed limit of
> at LEAST 55, if he was on an interstate). If you don't think this is
> dangerous and just plain stupid... then take the next step, and just admit
> that you think that split speed limits are a good thing...
>
>> or just plain stupid, which is it?
> Nope, I think it is stupid to park a truck in the middle of the road. Is
> this a common practice for you? Something that you think is a good idea?
> Something smart? Something endorsed by CRASH, PATT, a cop, or the DOT?
>
> Apparently you think that stopping in the middle of the road is perfectly
> fine, and to hell with other people who may not see it or expect it...
> With luck Rocky will park his truck in front of your path so that the both
> of you can share his experience together.
>
>> How much of your income comes from the railroad
>> industry
>
> Oh that's a tough question. I would say that some of my income comes from
> the indirect actions (or lack of actions) of the railroad. Need an
> example:
>
> When I was hauling grain, a lot of the loads came from grain elevators
> that were not getting the rail road cars that they were supposed to be
> getting because BNSF wasn't keeping up their end of the contract made
> between them and the state of South Dakota that required BNSF to make a
> certain number of cars available. By creating a shortage, they were
> attempting to raise the cost of shipping grain by rail (supply and
> demand). The grain elevators filed a class action law suit against BNSF...
> and won. The elevators then used part of the settlement to get trucks that
> were hauling the grain a better rate.
>
> SO because of the actions of the railroad, the loads were paying better,
> and there were more loads to be had... so my income increased because of
> the actions of the railroad, but I wouldn't exactly say the my income from
> those loads came FROM BNSF.
>
>> because you are NOT a truck driver, I will never beleive it there
>> is no way.
>
> I'm not going to get into an argument about this with a guy that agrees
> with groups like CRASH and PATT and thinks that slowing a truck down on
> the interstate is a good move. Make up what ever version you want that
> will help you sleep at night. I'll stick with the truth.
>
> And the simple truth is this:
>
> If he was able to see all the parked vehicles, he was able to see the
> shoulder.
>
> If he thought people would be able to see his flashers from a distance
> that would allow them to stop. He was able to see the shoulder of the road
> right next to him.
>
> If a vehicle is parked in the MIDDLE OF THE ROAD they are a road hazard.
>
>
> -=>Topper<=-

You're 100% right about all of what you said. Most of us have said that
Rocky is a WANNABE truck driver because of the stunts he's pulled. He's way
too stupid to realize his actions are a hazard to the people on the road and
he will never understand what a professional driver does.. Like I said
almost two years ago, this idiot is going to kill or hurt someone someday.
We can only hope it's just him.


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